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What Sabres team down through history have you liked less??
Thorner replied to Stoner's topic in The Aud Club
These guys aren’t the “Buffalo Sabres.” We are the Buffalo Sabres. These are just guys that have been paid to be here for 3-10 years. - - - Truly ”liking” OR “disliking” these guys is honestly sort of absurd, same as online celebrity worship: we don’t know them. They don’t know us. We are faceless to them. We have no idea who any of these people actually are. The Sabres are an *entertainment product*. I like them or dislike them SOLELY RELATIVE to how they perform by way of this context. *it is not a familial relationship*. It’s separation of art from author. “It makes me sad when people get down on these guys”. Is really quite naive, im sorry: it should be said. They are handsomely paid professionals: they don’t care about you. our shared kinship is with the fans. The kinship is with the *fans*. I empathize with the fans. I like the fans i get to know. I hate this team (not the humans behind the jerseys (we don’t know them)) cause they lose significantly more than they win and have for 13 years to the tune of specifically providing less value than every other single team. Which is their purpose: because it’s an entertainment product the nhl is a product -
I could be wrong, but I think at least part of the discussion is today’s result - as far as it pertains to predictiveness going forward -. What I’m taking is merely a stance against moral victories. They way we lost doesn’t matter. It’s not reflective because it’s not unusual for bad teams to play like this on the level of occasion we do If none of this is relevant to an active discussion, then I’m wrong
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I think Adams should get one mulligan: I’d keep him for next season. Honestly it’s probably a better-faith experiment if the coach is swapped out, even tho I’m significantly less anti-Granato than some. They can be back as a tandem, but then Adams forfeits his second coaching hire that Brawndo mentions, obviously.
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It’s not they they didn’t play reasonably, it’s that this is their *best* case result generally, right now. I’ll say it again: in an 82 game season, bad teams win games. They have games where they play well. A lot of them in fact. This is just the Monty Hall problem. Game show host opens the one door that tricks you into thinking you are in a better position than you are mathematically You need to make a change just like Monty hall
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Goalies don’t count as part of the roster, are you joking? If that was the case, we’d have seen upgrades at the position over the years. It’s not actually possible to do that, they are just randomly assigned at the beginning of every game. What saves they make also isn’t dependant of the shooting quality of your forwards. All shots are assuredly created equal. I mean, if you follow sports
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Nope, just her and her social media gal. Unfortunately I can’t be there this time. Got rejected on account of being too un-fashionable
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I think his bark probably still precedes his bite. There’s a lot of that Concept stuff still out there: as mentioned i think he’s a reasonable player but any GM worth his weight would continually be exploring avenues where we might find value to exploit. I could see someone overpaying. Or paying. If not, keep him
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His impacts this year have been a sizeable net negative he’s been OK on D, but the amount of ground he gives up to everyone else in other facets more than offsets the value he’s bringing relative to other players. Think of it like this: maybe when he’s on the ice we give up 3 shots for every 4 that other teams do, but we *take* like 5 less shots than the other teams we are comparing to. So we get outplayed when he’s on the ice whereas not so with the other example
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Muel earned his rep because of a small, irrelevant sample size last year that led to people calling him our team mvp. It was being argued last year that we’d sooner remove *any other player* from the lineup than Samuelsson. There absolutely needs to be pushback here after that. He’s a reasonable player that was extremely overhyped. The receipts are there, I just refuse to quote anyone. The blowback is relative putrid decision making process re: his contract. He’s been bad this year, but lots of players have. I still think he provides the type of value I’d like on my team: but not being in a position of, at all, needing to commit long term at the time we did, all we’ve done is take on a bunch of unnecessary risk. It’s not a comment on the player, it’s a comment on the GM
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Those calling him soft I suppose represent an exception, but those arguing re: his contract…that clearly has nothing to do with blaming Samuelsson. And if Adams is down right now, yes, I’ll kick the guy while he’s down. He’s a handsomely paid professional general manager. Do better than generally awful
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Have You Missed Seeing Them Play During This Break? Be Honest!
Thorner replied to bob_sauve28's topic in The Aud Club
For my part, only way this doesn’t end in disappointment is a 120 point-pace run over the final 33 that ends in a playoff berth. And really, only the second part of that sentence matters. No more “moral victory” trophies left in the Achievements list. -
Have You Missed Seeing Them Play During This Break? Be Honest!
Thorner replied to bob_sauve28's topic in The Aud Club
As for the OP question…No not really. Playoffs are nearly impossible and this season’s worth was always measured in playoffs. Expectation wise, but also commitment wise I posted less here during the break tho so I’m excited for SS to be back more. SS is great. I’ll always enjoy being here, don’t have any concern about that aspect -
Have You Missed Seeing Them Play During This Break? Be Honest!
Thorner replied to bob_sauve28's topic in The Aud Club
I am sort of candidly terrified to see what my reaction to actually being good again will be. Sometimes there isn’t any going back. -
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“Could care less.”
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It’s also rather telling that you gave my post an eye-roll, and (re: the bold) then proceeded to agree with the root of my argument. Haters be hating
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Predicted Skinner’s return to form Predicted Dahlin’s. Defended Dahlin when everyone was down on him during Krueger years. Defended Reinhart and Casey Mittelstadt. Advocated for giving Casey time. Staunchly defended our Captain, Jack Eichel: I’m positive all the time about our guys. You are conflating “not often positive” with “don’t often agree with your take” And, I gotta say, Chewie, that being well familiar with your takes: I’m good with that for now.