Thorny

They aren’t booing…they’re saying “osbuuuuurn” “osbuuuuuuurn”

I doubt we are that far apart. Am I firing Adams right now? No. Are you firing him if we miss next season? If you are, I mean..we’re not far apart here

And it doesn’t matter how they did it. Isn’t drafting open to Adams? The point is that they did it, with less goodwill player destination wise than buffalo. Chevy configured the tools at his disposal 7 times successfully I just want us to do it once The answer to that can’t be “patience”

The jets have traded their first around deadline day like 5 years running lol they’ve made a multitude of impact deals. It’s the combination of several good moves to build a cohesive whole, that’s my point your arguments don’t support the idea it can’t be done, they support the idea it takes a skilled maneuverer. No one is debating that Those 2 things you mentioned are *differences* not the main difference - and those two components also fall to the GM and, again, SEVEN TIMES take it all away and say even winnipeg has an easier time because…reasons the gap isn’t 7-0 severe - - - 99.9% of the arguments in defence of this regime fall apart on the basis of the goal being utterly low We are asking for almost nothing and still can’t get it

Winnipeg struggled with and continues to struggle with the exact same issues or worse, they’ve made the playoffs *7 times* after returning in 2011, and us not at all. i live here, I read the papers, you can see the “desired destination lists” voted on by nhl players: winnipeg is LOWER than buffalo the difference, again, is the aptitude of the person pulling the strings

Structuring your team around “development spacing” is like structuring your Star Wars movie around the taxation of trade routes

Developmental spacing lol

No, my point is well made if you were keeping up with the discussion my exact point is that either way CAN work and either way CAN fail. It’s down to the skill of the person implementing the strategy

We finished with 76 points after Jack missed the first quarter of the season - you know, the same point total KA has averaged for 4 years You are splitting hairs, dude they’ve all been bad

The sticking point re: the imagination of the fans not coming to fruition is that the part that remains imaginary is making the playoffs No one would actually care about the format used to build the team if it *ever actually worked* Fans don’t need to get used to seeing anything if it’s not success

No, with a rookie Eichel we finished with 81 points coming off a 50 point finish, as opposed to the near identical 84 from Adams this year, but coming off a 91 point finish

Stop the count! absolutely

The Buffalo Sabres will be fine

Advanced stats unfortunately have him as a downgrade on Girgs, but we shall see

Basically there will be unrest until the trade acquisition summaries don’t end with the bolded sentence Basically there will be unrest until the trade acquisition summaries don’t end with the bolded sentence been a theme starting with Byram Remember, we HAD Mittelstadt. That trade looks more dicey over time not less

He’s got this year. But he’s on the hot seat. - - - At this point we might just need to get lucky to make the playoffs. Keep our heads down and wait for the cookie to crumble our way. We seem unwilling or perhaps incapable of manually configuring a winning club

Jeannot traded

Again, it’s not a bad trade but making a lot of not bad trades isn’t working for Kevyn Adams to build a good team

Ok? I don’t care about the rumour mill lol i care about reality - there have been numerous trades. Utah just added Marino another one

Utah had made more trades now than Adams has in his career

Every deal we’ve seen is reasonable value. The point of the matter is that making reasonable value deals and selections has never been the issue with Adams: but, his focus on these types of moves being the priority, has