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I mean, they are 2.5 years apart. If you keep Casey yes you have the better player now, and maybe Byram’s improvement gets him back to what he was. But why isn’t Casey being afforded that same likelihood? If I had to guess who was more likely to improve, I’d go with Casey, given trajectory Also I don’t really agree with the Tuch comp. Casey is younger, and also Tuch was in the midst of a career outlier season. Casey’s saw a progression and back to back 60 point seasons

Congrats, you won the deal in the past i have some HD DVDs you might be interested in

You should stop whining incessantly about Dahlin then, under the prism of our own argument. Casey was bad so he’s always bad. Fine Dahlin is generational whether you like it or not. That’s what people thought, right? We need to stick to it. that’s your argument

Gets quoted all the time around here by people who follow this stuff more than I do In fairness my leeway for spending time arguing this is low because the scenario where we DO have the “highest ranked pool” means demonstrably nothing, so it’s not an avenue for much potential invigorating discussion

Definitely unfair to claim negative reaction as reflexive. Plenty of data points to suggest the deal is questionable, looking purely in a vacuum As soon as I saw LHD my heart sank. It goes against principles I’ve argued against in the past. It’s worrying positionally and due to injury concerns. And relative to giving up the forward who’s HAVING the best season, if that bridges that gap for you

Good show

I honestly don’t understand this reference either but 10/10 for entertainment value

What role did Kadri play in depth chart?

If our best forward can’t even get the right shot we need, I struggle to see why lesser assets would I mean this in sincerity: you shouldn’t hope for someone as good as Byram because we just cashed in the most valuable chip we had and that’s what it was worth Also we were ranked mid-pack on lots of prospect lists. Athletic was the outlier not that it matters. Prospect strength doesn’t matter

Bowy will fit right in with Cozy and Krebsy. Want to be here.

It’s been a long, time time since it’s even been theoretically possible for us to dismiss “timeline to success” as a factor. His argument collapses upon itself by needing to use “prospect” to make its point

Had nothing to do with what? Injuries are a continuing factor. Inability to stick with the nhl is a lost variable If Byram was only close in games because Casey was sent down while Byram instead was hurt, yes, it doesn’t diminish the injury concern

You think Byram is actually better, right now? I legitimately thought you were gassing Savoie could be his equal by next season? I can’t make heads or tails of this. That’s an impossibility

“What could KA have even done? Good trade or bad, this was his only option” is the only truly putrid take. Like the trade or don’t, but if there’s one iota of, “well, what do you want, this is the best we could get”, just…SMH

9 less because Byram actually hasn’t been injured as much or because Casey got sent down? Actually asking So “what even was there?” Still applies, even when just keeping the asset was an option lol good to know

It’s a good practice in theory. Crunching the advanced stats so you can buy low on actual production in favour of potential un-mined value can lead to good additions to the team in the vein of Eric Comrie and the like

Anyways, it’s a very interesting trade. As a trade, as an examination of value and team building, I don’t understand it. But I don’t understand a lot of what KA does in a strategic sense. The trade is certainly par for the course. Nothing really changes: next year is, finally, KA’s 5th year on the job. He’s still on his last chance. If this is one of the moves he made to give the team the best chance of success next year, he can live and die by it. Byram himself: seems reasonably talented. We’ve rostered plenty of good players. We see them go on to amazing things once gone. He’s probably another good player! KA has shown an ability to bring in good players. He’s shown literally zero ability for those transactions to matter as a means to an end: the only thing that matters jury is still out. But they are heading in soon. There are footsteps.

It is ABSURD to say KA didn’t have a choice. Absurd. By the prism of his own strategies? Sure: but those strategies are in and of themselves a choice. He was an *RFA*. If we had interest in prioritizing RESULTS next year, the decision was clear even our hockey trades aren’t hockey trades, they are a willing shift towards prioritizing the future. Again. Never about the now: we just refuse.

If injuries are mentioned even once as an excuse during the end of year conference..

Tweet crashes as burns with “upside” im more interested in a team looking to compete on THIS side of reality

Have I definitively won the “Samuelsson’s deal was bad” argument vs the entirety of the board, yet? cnn is getting ready to make a call

On the plus side, he not only beefs up our “Youngest team in the league” excuse, he likely aids in Kevyn’s, “we had a lot of injuries” excuse going forward, too