Thorny

The sense that he could legitimately be fired after any one of these losses does make it quite tempting to root for that

But it’s a wholly necessary start

Well, Botterill had him as the guy on his list that Adams was keen on distancing himself from We can only assume Terry held Adams at gunpoint though and fed him that scouting report

I guess “I can’t see Adams being brought back” read to me as more of a prediction than an opinion of what you would do

I’m talking about making the playoffs. The goal needs to be playoffs year 1

Provided nothing but a “block” to the players from picks in rounds 3-7 making it to the show

It is, because “scoring” was always being used as a synonym for forwards who can contribute to the creation we need we needed more good forwards - more impact forwards. the context is that subtracting Peterka and adding Doan and Danforth was never the attention the forward unit needed and it was never close to enough

Think of how much ground we’ll make up on the Cozens front though: every game Norris simply misses he’s benefiting the team relative to what Cozens did while playing. verdict: won the trade My point is that merely firing Adams aids in perception regardless of the reality of Terry being a doofus

Perception is reality. and how any player or executive could perceive Terry as anything but a doofus when he refuses to hold Adams accountable is everything

the layman only ever says “to-may-to”

The idea we didn’t need more scoring even with Peterka here was always wrong

Incorrect. a competent GM would never argue this team has the luxury of endeavouring another 3-4 year quest If one thinks the answer to a turn around is a long form rebuild, one is as lost as the current brain trust

What could Adams have even done? Whoever the utter yokel is who signed Cozens to that deal should pay

I agree.

I don’t know how many times I have to post that “Terry is the big bad” before you make the small effort required to understand what I’m actually saying. Or don’t. I’ve lost patience with the argument Terry being the big bad does not supersede or belittle the argument that Adams deserves to be, and should be, fired “Adams should be fired” doesn’t require a caveat. “I'm ok with Adams being fired” need not apply. Should. He should be fired. That’s it. Saying he should be fired is not me saying it fixes the Pegula issue. It doesn’t matter that it’s not saying that.

It could also just be a reflection of how much Terry legitimately likes Adams and therefore wants to keep him on in some capacity rather than a desire to actually continue implementing the ideas Adams brought forth. Ie I do think there are positions in the org that pay well yet don’t have much actual influence

One more go, if not for the rash of injuries. Can we even count that as a full, real “go” of it? One more chance next year I say. As long as there’s no funny business

Don’t leave out the fact you hit the return key on this in March

Adams getting an extension positioned as “one more kick at the can, this time (this, this, THIS time) for realz, is at least as likely as him getting canned

And without any action from him to the contrary there’s nothing left

Exactly. Well said. I’ve mentioned it a million times - the Sabres’ players aren’t stupid. They can SEE the lack of accountability. They understand the franchise doesn’t want to measure itself by way of results the sabres aren’t unsalvageable “even if they fire Adams”, that’s backwards the sabres are *revealed to be* unsalvageable because they won’t fire him. They won’t express accountability there’s hope for the Pegula that does can Adams right now. But if Pegula canned Adams right now he wouldn’t be the Terry we know and love, at all I’ll keep hoping for the canning of the GM, for some element of competency to be revealed in him, because it’s all we have “well if we fire him it won’t make a difference” has always, always been a reflection of a defence mechanism to the idea one knows he won’t be Even the acknowledgement the GM hasn’t been good enough would be a chasm of improvement from what we have seen - we are that low. I ask anyone if the sabres are in a position to deny even one modicum of hope to the fans.

If even in the spring.

To the bold: a great point, and the answer is a resounding “no”, of course. Adams should be fired if you believe in accountability to results. As for the rest, the same stuff I (and for some of it, others too) was vehemently railing on to increasing apparent annoyance, as a warning, all offseason long: -“sabres had enough scoring” to what, finish bottom 10 again? -JJ Peterka loss was, as always, worked over time in a frenzy into “addition by subtraction”. Only his faults mattered once we dealt him -we could simply “choose” to play better D while retaining offence cause players would just “pick up the slack” up front. Shell game thinking need not apply - players weren’t “injury prone”, they were just, coincidentally, hurt all the time - oh the GM made a ton of changes! 25.414436 percent of the roster since the start of the LAST year we didn’t make the playoffs. Pay no attention to the fact every team does on the fringe adjustment every year as a function of the league itself. Danforth is our impact addition. - when you don’t acquire good players, you theorize maybe the players we did get will be “harder” to play against. Whatever that means - maybe the Adams set up of requiring 34 consecutive coin flips to go your way isn’t the *best* strategy even if it’s strictly possible!

The takes in this thread lol. I dealt out a lot of red Xs and I still didn’t deal out half as many as I should have