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Agree, I’m not really worried about the Byram deal. I think the bidding market will help offset Adams natural inability and we end up with a player tantamount to Byram: either Byram himself or another player who can help you win if put in a specific situation the bigger move to me is one where we see actual improvement: we haven’t made a single one this offseason! Is anyone else noticing this? Regardless of what happens with Byram, we need a futures trade. Right now for a F or for a D should we trade Byram for a F.

Lumping on the the bold here (and touching on 1 at the same time), there’s a level of disingenuousness in “we don’t have to win a cup to enjoy it”’ as you point out in that no one is labelling that as their bar for enjoyment. As you allude to with the bold, it IS about enjoying the experience: one of the most negative aspects of never making the playoffs is actually that our *regular seasons* have no meaning. We haven’t been able to enjoy the league and feel a part of it for so long because we’ve realized our regular seasons are DOA by Canadian thanksgiving

Not everything. Just the vast majority for a 5th of a century

“X”, for being too realistically on point while negative

What a GM Ya, we are looking for another McLeod trade for sure. Haven’t gotten it yet in an offseason you’d think they’d be even more urgently wanting to make it Headed into 6 Ppl should actually give up there as I’ve said: he’s not going to meaningfully address the position if he had any inclination to we’d have see a smidgen of effort We won’t see goalie addressed until a new regime

All they’ve done is increase the likelihood they’ll need him to play a larger role

Best case scenario is this is essentially our tweaked on the fringes roster from last season that somehow gets enough from Roslovic in place of Peterka that most of the Kesselring upgrade value is pocketed. I feel like that’s essentially what Adams wanted: the team again + Kesselring

Benson - Kulich - Thompson Roslovic - Norris - Tuch Zucker - McLeod - Quinn Greenway - Krebs - Doan Danforth Byram - Dahlin Power - Kesselring Samuelsson - Timmins Johnson

Ya man I mean you took it a little seriously. My point is kinda self explanatory not a rigid data based metric: usually guys you hear called “bottom 6” are guys you’d ideally want on your 4th line, etc no one is calling a true first liner “top 6”. MacKinnon isn’t a “top 6” player my post was a poke about the intricacies and nature of human language and verbiage more so that strictly statistically based So then the statement is wrong regardless: he’s a mid 6er already not by potential the terminology is bad that’s my point. The vagueness of the terminology breeds error by nature

LMAO legit forgot Utah relocated from Arizona

We are on the Richard timeline now

We heard a lot about the good fancy stats of the 4th liners last year too also, miss me with the “middle 6” stuff. It doesn’t really fool anyone, it’s like what people say just to be nice. He’s a third liner might as well call him “top 9” connotations Middle-6 = third liner top-6 = second liner bottom-6 = 4th liner first liner = first liner