Thorny

Depends what the goal is, honestly - that’s the defining factor. Far fewer teams are electing the long form rebuild as the viable strategy nowadays, though. The success rate is too poor. There’s definitely the school of thought you need a big long form tear down endeavour to field a cup team if you aren’t a destination - the sabres profess to be among that group. If the goal is to make the playoffs, in the nhl that’s a year over year proposition - you can do that merely with competence and a solid offseason of work

Thank you A lot

“Good call, Thorny” never in the equation, eh, Tom? The master predictor lol. I can only have been brainwashed by the incorrect group think

lol absurd. I’ve posted countless times the multitude of tacts the team could take and not once did i specify we must move Byram for a forward. Go on - pull up my posts. Or, you can just go with the fact I’m being spoon fed my opinions from others and incapable of forming my own thoughts 👍 Good grief. I’m happy the board has shifted so smoothly to “absolute win by Adams” and “definitively improved”. That’s great - but please, please leave me out of your gaslighting “oh and if you don’t like it it’s cause you were brainwashed into expecting different” totally miss me with that. This is just going way, way too far now. Utter lack of respect for the discussion/poster

I wonder if maybe he’s not actually fighting for his job

Not only bad but “bad and refuses to change his play”. Ok. Uncoachable I guess.

A minor F add might get the F group back to even if you squint at Doan Then at least we have the Kesselring improvement. not enough but something

Right that’s what I’m saying: he’s not getting traded this summer People that are dreamily envisioning it as a building block transaction for something to improve this summer are mistaken - that’s what I’m saying (nm that being beyond Adams’ capacity) There wasn’t “more coming” after the JJ trade - it wasn’t the “first shoe”. remember? “I’ll judge the Peterka deal when we see what’s next” nothing was next . I’ll happily eat the shoe if there is - - -

No I said they are about break even

30 goals better, after accounting for Peterka subtraction so Kesselring is worth like…..65 goals on his own Phil Kesselring with a cheeseburger on the line… maybe

Ya, next year. He’s not getting traded this summer. D is improved. I do not think adding Kesselring trims the D by THIRTY GOALS, no. Not 30. Peterka was one of our best PP players relatively - it’s just that our entire PP was bad. He’d have been the first to benefit if we actually, you know, changed the pp coaches - - - Not really trying to have an argument - if you want to argue Kesselring for Peterka is a wash: fine. That’s fine. So Adams made a lateral move he only made BECAUSE jj asked for a deal. Ok. So we are the same. We…sat in last almost the whole year and haven’t made the playoffs in 14 years There’s..no plan for improvement? If JJ doesn’t ask out we just…do nothing? we haven’t done anything

So his value will go up when he fails to get opportunity? Just curious

Dude there’s no hope - I think we have to realize this. If the team can be this blatantly bad and insulting to its fans and still get people refusing to call it out I think it’s a lost cause I think we have the 7th most space right now

Ya I doubt we carry 3 goalies

Not of guys that are locked up on deals exactly to UFA point - they have years of control remaining/the need to negotiate a new contract without a free pass to UFA. Even wtih Reinhart, he was still RFA with the need for a new deal of course you think a contract that walks him to UFA doesn’t hurt his trade value. Why would you? He’s a Sabre. i linked a post in thread where I told you what would happen to a T. By all means get on me, again. They aren’t trading him