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This a great plan. Let him give you his 2 favorite teams. Ones that he would definitely sign with if traded to them. Then offer both teams his rights. Ask for a conditional 1st if he signs with them and nothing if he doesn't. Someone will pony up.

I don't know the story of Adam Oates. Did he hit free agency as a result of refusing to sign with the team who drafted him? Did he have an arm's length list of demands for teams looking to sign him? Edit: at least from reading Wiki, looks likes a completely different situation. He wasn't drafted, but was a true FA. And the place he signed was likely motivated by money. $1.1 million 4 year contract in 1985 was likely a lot of money for a rookie back then.

What about time on the PP unit? Anyone think there's a shot in hell CHI or PIT places him on their PP?

Posturing? Just like he did with Nashville? Anyways, can anyone think of another player who pulled this same stunt who went on to become an excellent or great NHLer?

Sounds eerily similar to the Babcock situation, although we have even less details of that affair. If GMTM thinks he's been duped, he doesn't need to tell people about it. Doesn't reflect well on him.

Let him talk to teams now. Have him give you his top 2-3 teams he would definitely sign with. If not us, auction his rights to the top bidder of these 2-3 teams. Get a 2nd for him if you can.

You would think GMTM would know better by now.

Yes. And after it is filled out, it needs to be faxed to the NHL.

This is nonsense. This meeting should've occurred a week ago with signing done today.

Seems to me Vesey should go. The guy's never suited up for an NHL game in his life. I would think even practice would be much more intense than college practice. That's if he signs of course!

Well, from that picture of him on the beach that was floating around a few days ago, I'm sure Samson has seen them. And good ones at that. Jack? I'm not so sure.

4 1st round picks. Not a typo. 4. And it really doesn't matter if Vanek made them better or not. 4 1st round picks is a king's ransom, if it is the last pick in the 1st. However, Darcy still would've been picking them and we wouldn't have been able to keep them if they panned out.

And if he continues his trajectory, an offer of around $15 million per year likely would be matched by EDM, but put them in a big bind. The trick is that the offer sheeting team likely wouldn't want him just signed for 4 years either, but they could later extend him.

It's possible a trade has already been agreed upon, contingent on us signing Vesey though.

I doubt he'll drive a trade himself, but may sweeten the pot in a combined player(s)/pick(s) trade.

I think at this point, maybe he just shouldn't go out to bars. He has to realize his every action will be scrutinized, but he's apparently blind to this.

In light of his on-ice production, his off-ice attention is becoming a headache. I didn't say he's doing anything illegal. He may or may not be, but the dude has to learn how to act like a professional athlete. I don't think they'll be many suitors.

I see the goal posts moving now.

That's not what he wrote though. He said that we can't fault Vesey for wanting to maximize the money he'll get due to his increased production.

How has he increased his value? He's still limited by the maximum you can get in an ELC. And I'm sure Nashville would've given him that maximum considering they told him he would be a top-6 forward. Saying he would've got less is anyone's guess because he flat out refused to negotiate with Nashville b You know, for someone who is grossly informed, your post was long-winded and bordering on insulting.

A lot of NHL players apparently have Daddy issues. Lemieux and Vesey immediately come to mind.

It would hope an NHL GM wouldn't be so petty as to shy away from getting a player he really wants from a team just because the team offer sheeted him a few years back. That, plus we tried to trade for Fowler apparently and were rebuked anyhow. But, of course we have zero details about that potential trade and what really went down.

I'm not interested in giving up so much for a forward, especially if Vesey signs. As for offer sheeting Lindholm, I'll jump on that bandwagon.

Oh boy do I hate this argument. Some people don't realize the NHL/NFL/NBA season is zero sum game. Not everyone wins. For every winner, there has to be a loser. Sort of like the stock market and mutual fund managers. Index funds have been proven to outperform most actively managed (by a professionals nonetheless!) funds.

Correct. I'm sure GMTM isn't sitting on his hands, Russ Brandon wiping his tears for him, wondering what will he ever do now.