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I don’t know how to make what I am saying any more clear. I have not taken a position for or against the election dispute. I have simply acknowledged it is happening. Biden won and it is being disputed. That dispute means this may take longer than normal. It’s extremely unlikely the results are overturned but right or wrong it could happen. Hey another post where you offer nothing.

Yes I see the numbers like everyone else. As I said nobody knows for sure how this ends. There is a level of uncertainty even if it is unlikely the current results change. How am I casting doubt by saying the election is disputed and the final result of that dispute is unknown? It’s literally what is happening.

Biden won’t be a unifier because some on the right will continue to dispute the election and some will not agree with his policies. Some on the left may think his policies are not progressive enough to counter Trump’s. From Obama to Trump the pendulum swung pretty far. I think there are those on the left who will expect Biden to have an equal but opposite reaction to Trump which may not happen. Essentially the state of polarization on so many fronts is going to make it insurmountable for him IMO. Never once did I say he did not win. However I think the process with the courts is going to make this take longer than normal. Nobody knows for sure how that ends but I think he still gets sworn in. The discussion I had above turned into armed conflict because of the election which is why I said my advice is to let it play out (as opposed to people killing each other). I hope this clears up any miscommunication with what I was trying to say. But since you came at me like that for no reason let me respond. There is a segment of this country which is emotionally frail. They lash out when others don’t agree or don’t say things exactly how they want. If you are looking for what contributes to division look in the mirror. Before you attempt to lecture me, which honestly means nothing at this point, remember you fired the first shot.

Relax. I’m pretty sure Biden gets the Oval Office. I don’t think he’ll be a unifier of the country but it is what it is.

Well, the results haven’t been certified yet and it doesn’t look like they will be any time soon. I didn’t say anything about Republicans. All I said was I don’t think this thing ends any time soon and if it’s Biden I think we have a peaceful transition.

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It’s something everyone has to wait and see. A lot can happen between now and January. If the FEC certifies Biden as they winner I think we will have a peaceful transition. I don’t know how much you watch cable news but I’ve limited myself to watching for entertainment purposes only. Too much hype. I try to read articles more now and watch videos from people at these events.

The value of 2A is that it identifies the right to bear arms and organize well regulated militias. The idea being if the government crossed a certain line the citizens would be able to organize and fight back. I don’t think we are at that point but I believe other people on both sides do think we are. My advice is to let this play out between now and January. IMO anyone who advocates for violent removal/installation of a political figure at this point is emotionally unstable or does not possess the right experience to make that call. Then again my vision is limited like everyone else.

Representative from New York and Chairmen of the House Judiciary Committee. AntiFa or any other group (left or right) will not be responsible or capable of physically removing a political official from a seat they refuse to vacate. Do you really think DC Police and Secret Service would let armed citizens bust in the door? That’s kind of what those guys with guns are there to prevent. Ive been thinking of starting a thread to discuss extremist groups on both sides. I have a feeling more are on the way and those that exist will continue making life interesting.

So you say there is no they and then say “they” are no different from extremist groups on the right. Ok lol. Trying to pull a Jerry Nadler doesn’t make AntiFa non existent.

You answered your inquiry of what AntiFa is in the first sentence of the second paragraph. If you would like I can put a nice long post together comparing them to past and present organizations along with all kinds of videos of what they do.

How do you screw that up?

You were saying. Lol

CMON!!!!!!

Bills going the wrong way on this drive.

Correct me if I’m wrong but the concern here is the condoning of violence in the streets by the POTUS. I'll give you that one. That said ANTIFA is garbage both as a collective and as individuals.

To start conservatives shouldn’t riot when Biden is formally declared the winner. They shouldn’t burn innocent people’s businesses or intimidate people minding their own business and act like it’s promoting racial equality. They shouldn’t act like an 11 year old boy dancing in a strip club promotes LGBT equality. If conservatives want to go after a liberal politician’s questionable relationship with a foreign entity they better make sure they go after their politicians who have the same issue.

Did this a week ago. Not my unit but same training.

Reminds of post 9/11 when small uncultured minds thought all Muslims were evil without understanding the people.

I made it to the bold and stopped. I’ve been told multiple times in this board EVERYONE who supports Trump supports racism, bigotry and hatred. It’s cool for others to use broad strokes but not me?

I can show you plenty of videos of leftists trying to scare people for not agreeing with their ideology. We can go back and forth but my point is that leftists act like they hold a moral high ground which is an absolute lie. Four years of accusing millions of people they don’t even know of being racist bigots is immoral IMO. Especially when Trump supporters consist of multiple races. An example is what happens on this very board. Apparently every single person who voted for Trump enables hatred. Saying millions you don’t even know are a bunch of racist enablers is done out of hate, not morality.

Yeah because the left hasn’t tried to target and intimidate people in the last couple of years.

Easy to justify until the other side starts doing it.

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Welcome aboard! Both sides have extremely loud people who don’t seem to think before they speak. The same doom and gloom about Trump is starting about Biden. Im not well versed enough in politics to say if it’s just politics or if the number of emotionally frail people is on the rise for both sides.