JujuFish

Oh, I don't like this at all. Think they traded up because they knew we would try to trade up above them?

I would take Jackson and Rudolph (and obviously Mayfield, Darnold, and Rosen) before Allen.

I had a lot of fun with South Carolina's run last year. Let's see Buffalo have similar success this year!

Ivory will make more money than half of the starting RBs in the league in 2018 (source). That's a lot for a third stringer. Granted, a lot of great RBs are on their rookie contracts. Agreed. It's getting very annoying. They went from a 6th round QB who was a backup for 4 years to a 5th round QB who was a backup for 3 years. Not sure my point is relevant, because I think the plan is to go all in on a QB in the draft.

Perhaps, but the 3 best (IMO) current QBs in the league, Brady (Bledsoe), Rodgers (Favre), and Brees (Flutie) all sat to start their careers.

By that reasoning, he shouldn't want to come here, either. Our top WR was Deonte Thompson, with 430 yards. Kelvin finished with 217, Zay with 316, Matthews with 282. Our WRs combined for 115 receptions. That's only 3 more than Jarvis Landry had on his own. Antonio Brown has beaten that number twice.

In the first round? I wouldn't mind signing Bridgewater regardless of who the Bills draft. Keenum? I'm not so sure.

Mmm, soylent green.

I'm asking you. You said Bortles was a highly-rated accurate college QB who turned into a bust, then followed that by saying he is fine.

So which is it? Bortles is fine, or Bortles is an example of a "highly-rated accurate college QB" that was a bust in the pros?

I had to dig this up from a Numberfire article I remember reading about Bortles leading up to his draft: For Bortles, none of his statistics really jump out of the page at you. Of the 52 quarterbacks in the study, Bortles ranked 14th in games played, 14th in adjusted QBR (out of 24), 21st in passer efficiency rating, and 28th in adjusted yards per attempt. It's about as blah as you can get. The obvious reason that Bortles is so highly sought after is the fact that he is just a large human being. However, you would think that, if this height was such a grotesque advantage, it would have translated into grotesque stats as well.

How does it not? Do you know what hater means?

Allen 'haters'? That implies people are irrationally rating him low. He easily has the worst accuracy of the group, and has the worst yards per completion, according to numbers posted up-thread. Here are the QB ratings when under pressure: Mayfield: 111.6 Rudolph 97.2 Jackson 90.6 Darnold: 74.8 Rosen 69.1 Allen 58.5 Again, easily last place.

Not sure. I'm guessing it's an attempt to see purely how accurate the QB is with throwing the ball, where tips have more to do with awareness of where defenders are?

I got updated numbers for you: Jackson 8.4% Rosen 7.7% Mayfield: 7.4% Rudolph 6.3% Allen 4.8% Darnold: 3.7% Here is PFF's adjusted completion % (they ignore throwaways, spikes, tipped balls, and I believe count drops as completions for this (since that's on the receiver)) Mayfield: 80.6% Rosen 75.0% Rudolph 74.2% Jackson 72.0% Darnold: 70.4% Allen 66.5%

Heh, the other first rounders in Cam's draft were: Jake Locker (8th), Blaine Gabbert (10th), and Christian Ponder (12th). There was a little more success in the second round, Dalton (35th) and Kaepernick (36th). Then a bunch of nobodies, except Tyrod (180th). I didn't realize until now that TJ Yates was drafted the same year and earlier (152nd). Tyrelle Pryor was picked up in the supplemental draft, though he had far more success as a WR for Cleveland a couple seasons ago than he ever did as a QB.

I think those stats are incomplete. It looks like the info I got that from was done before the 2017 season.

Pro Football Focus tells me this: Jackson 8.0% Rosen 7.3% Mayfield: 6.1% Allen 4.8% Darnold: 4.6% Rudolph 4.5%

What about 2014 when his OC was Pat Shurmur?

If you're referring to hitting a QB below the knees, that's a result of the hit Carson Palmer took in the playoffs against the Steelers after the 2005 season (the Bengals were my pick to go all the way that year, too).

Hard to say with such a limited sample size, but he does have impressive stats. His 'Total QBR' was above every QB except Watson. He was 6th in the NFL with a clean pocket passer rating. His PFF passing grade was also 6th best at 85.9. 28.8 points per game, 8.8 yards per attempt. 35.2 percent of his attempts were positively graded by PFF, highest of any QB in the NFL. His intermediate accuracy was 63.2%, with 10.8 yards per attempt. He completed 62.3% under duress, the highest PFF has seen for any QB since 2014. He had the 6th lowest sack rate under pressure, 12.9%. Hell, his number one receiver was Marquise freakin' Goodwin (who had nearly as many receiving yards as our top two, McCoy and Clay, combined)!

Jimmy Garoppolo has the longest winning streak to start his career (7-0) since Big Ben (15-0) (who would likely be 16-0 except he didn't play in that game against Buffalo that we shall avoid talking about).

They were 1-9. Still, he has been very impressive in his limited action.

Perhaps Kraft told him he would be Belichick's successor if he stayed with the team.

Not this year, and I think a couple other NFC teams could beat them, too. That said, they are far and away the best team of the last two decades and perhaps the best dynasty in the history of football. I live in New England, and for what it's worth, I didn't hear anyone at work complain about officiating, not even the one guy who lost a $500 bet.