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Game Discussion Thread GDT: Buffalo @ Florida 7:30 2/28/13
Trettioåtta replied to JJFIVEOH's topic in Archive
Yeah I thought about that, but it was too late - i'd already commented. I hope she doesn't, both for her and my sake -
Game Discussion Thread GDT: Buffalo @ Florida 7:30 2/28/13
Trettioåtta replied to JJFIVEOH's topic in Archive
Would help if she could sing -
Do you know what the trade was meant to be? It is fine if it gets bigger - it is front loaded they wasnted to remove
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Game Discussion Thread GDT: Buffalo @ Florida 7:30 2/28/13
Trettioåtta replied to JJFIVEOH's topic in Archive
I'm not down on him, but he isn't playing the game he should be playing and isn't as effective as he should be. For all the ###### Hecht takes, there's no denying he is playing his game, Marcus isn't -
Game Discussion Thread GDT: Buffalo @ Florida 7:30 2/28/13
Trettioåtta replied to JJFIVEOH's topic in Archive
I think it is the same as Grigo - it isn't to punish him as such, it is to show him how to improve his game (hint - stop playing with the puck). I think we forget how young a guy he really is -
Game Discussion Thread GDT: Buffalo @ Florida 7:30 2/28/13
Trettioåtta replied to JJFIVEOH's topic in Archive
Also Stafford has been good defensively and on the Pk - he is still an asset the team. Foligno has really not contributed much in the last month - he is young as well, so i have no problem with treating him like Grigo. He should be on the 3rd line, but I think his call up last year tricked everyone into thinking he would be a more contributing player -
Game Discussion Thread GDT: Buffalo @ Florida 7:30 2/28/13
Trettioåtta replied to JJFIVEOH's topic in Archive
Foligno could do with sitting, he needs to simplify his game and stop trying to dangle through people and to use his body more -
Ryan O'Reilly - Get Him At All Costs - Who Do You Trade
Trettioåtta replied to CallawaySabres's topic in Archive
He means Pickard, a goalie prospect for Col (20 years old) -
Ryan O'Reilly - Get Him At All Costs - Who Do You Trade
Trettioåtta replied to CallawaySabres's topic in Archive
NMC don't save the player from being bought out. The only reason to buy a player out with the amnesty buyout would be to save cap space. Briere is on the tail end of his contract, so isn't earning much -
Ryan O'Reilly - Get Him At All Costs - Who Do You Trade
Trettioåtta replied to CallawaySabres's topic in Archive
Breire won't wave his NMC (nor should he - he negotiated it in for stability) http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=416949 -
Ryan O'Reilly - Get Him At All Costs - Who Do You Trade
Trettioåtta replied to CallawaySabres's topic in Archive
The Sedins signed for $6.1 million each and they are 80-100 point scorers. Not to mention Vanek has been over signed for 4 years. If our GM could get them to agree to $5.5 million each, what would you think then? e.g. 5 for 5 -
Armia is almost certainly going to the playoffs. So he won't be there to help for another month or two
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Ryan O'Reilly - Get Him At All Costs - Who Do You Trade
Trettioåtta replied to CallawaySabres's topic in Archive
Bernier was traded months later for a 2nd and 3rd, the second become Torres and the 3rd became McNabb -
Ryan O'Reilly - Get Him At All Costs - Who Do You Trade
Trettioåtta replied to CallawaySabres's topic in Archive
We got Ennis, McNabb and 20 games of Torres for Campbell - that is about as good a return as you will ever get I think -
Ryan O'Reilly - Get Him At All Costs - Who Do You Trade
Trettioåtta replied to CallawaySabres's topic in Archive
Okay, let me put it another way. The year before their awful season they lost leadership - the players you mentioned barely played, you can't be part of the core by playing on the bench - if we bought out Leino this offseason, it wouldn't change the on ice team at all because he wasn't part of it. Furthermore, trading Foresberg wasn't reshaking the core, it was making the logical decision - he refused to commit to them long term, so they shipped him out before he was lost for nothing. Kukkonen was a place filler, he was as much a part of their core as Sulzer is to ours. I also think trading Sekera would not be a major shake up move. A shake up to me would be them trading Knuble, Gagne and Foresberg (even if he wanted to resign). Firing the GM and coach is standard on a failing team. We have done one so far, and I would expect us to do the other unless he makes some good moves at the deadline. I agree perhaps my minor tweeks comment was going too far, it would be fairer to say they recovered without making a major shake up. They didn't have to blow the team up to recover form it -
Ryan O'Reilly - Get Him At All Costs - Who Do You Trade
Trettioåtta replied to CallawaySabres's topic in Archive
People really only use stats to determine value. They forget Howard's stats are mediocre despite playing behind a 4 time winning Selke player and the greatest D-man of all time for half the game -
18-6-4 gives us 55 points and a 93% chance of the playoffs 16-8-4 gives us 51 points and a 18% chance of the playoffs
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Ryan O'Reilly - Get Him At All Costs - Who Do You Trade
Trettioåtta replied to CallawaySabres's topic in Archive
Out 06 Primeau - He only played 9 games for them and he retired (but he was team captain) Desjardins - He only played 45 games for them and he retired (and only 90ish over the last 4 years for them) Handzus - In theory he was traded for a similar player in Calder - not too different to the recent Cole for Ryder trade Johnsson - He was lost to FA but he only played 47 games for them and only played there for one year, not a major piece of the puzzle This gave them a lack of leadership, admittedly, but they also signed Foresberg. Side note, this team lost basically nothing but leadership and a year later they sucked - yet our fans want to trade both our leadership and best players. This way we can create a positive mental attitude in our prospects when they come to the NHL and lose for 3 years In 06 Calder - Again, I don't really see this as a shake up (however, he was younger and riskier than Handzus) In 07 Zhitnik - Gained in a trade and selled him for more when things didn't turn around in their season Coburn - Good piece of the puzzle to get, young and able to build around Kukkonen - Nothing worth talking about Biron - Traded for a second rounder, nothing all that special for a back-up who can carry the team a bit if he has to Out 07 Meyer - He is a sort of Brennan character, drafted and only really played when he was 24/25 Forsberg - He was a pending UFA and the season was lost it obviously made sense to trade him, not a major shake up as it didn't shake the core Zhitnik - Was there for 2 months, not a major piece of the puzzle and never was, they basically traded Meyer for Coburn and a 3rd - very good trade Calder - Went back to Chicago, clearly didn't work out - not a major piece to lose Offseason 07 This is when the more import moves came, I would argue literally the only roster shaking move they made was Foresberg, and that was lucky that they had him on their roster - we dont have anyone like him on ours. He was a UFA piece not a core piece. Similar to Marrian Hossa on the wings 09 team. They Meyer for Coburn was a good trade, but nothing major, it would be similar to us indirectly trading Brennan for someone like Josi from the preds - this is a really good move, but i'm a little confused how they managed it - maybe it was like the trading a paper clip for something marginally better then trading that for something even better until you get to a car So far, they lost their leadership who didn't really play anymore, then they tanked, they tried to right the ship by trading a spare part for a vet, that didn't work so then they traded their star player they got through FA 1.5 years ago (who wasn't going to resign) and then they traded the vet for a promising rookie. Really they didn't do much in my mind - nothing shook the old gore (Knuble, Gagne etc) or the new core (Richards, Carter etc.) However, in the offseason they signed (basically through FA) Briere, Timonen, Hartnell - this was very big, it reshaped their offence but it was really good because they were pieces of the puzzle that were lacking. They also traded a young offensively gifted, defensively lacking D man and an over the hill LW for an old vet D-man to address their lack of leadership and a promising young winger. So yes they had a lot of turn over, but it was often with real spare parts. Moreover, it was through FA that they made the real changes to the roster. B, T and H became leaders in the room and made them better. However, it was the offseason when all this happened, it wasn't like they decided to tear down what they had and start from scratch -
GAME DISCUSSION THREAD GDT Buffalo at Tampa Bay 7:30pm 2-26-2013
Trettioåtta replied to wjag's topic in Archive
Myers - 3 goals, 1 assist, 2 game-winning-goals, -6 -
I watched the last couple of minutes of this game. I have to admit, the Pens fire wagon brand of hockey is exciting to watch
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GAME DISCUSSION THREAD GDT Buffalo at Tampa Bay 7:30pm 2-26-2013
Trettioåtta replied to wjag's topic in Archive
Solid win. Their legs moved and they killed the penalties. Maybe this helps Myers confidence - he was a lot better in the third. Grigo and Hecht both had about 5mins of ice. But I thought they both made some nice plays - but I can see what they mean about Grigo watching the game -
GAME DISCUSSION THREAD GDT Buffalo at Tampa Bay 7:30pm 2-26-2013
Trettioåtta replied to wjag's topic in Archive
Stamkos has 8 shots tonight