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Thank you. I do appreciate your kind words. You are correct that being a good person in every respect is most important. In fact, I will say it is the only thing of import.

Thank you. You have been doing a noble job of making this a good thread for good discussion. I also thank you for defending me in these hateful attacks. For full disclosure, I as a Muslim do not belive that Jesus (PBUH) was crucified. The passage in the Qur'an that was quoted tells me that. God has never allowed one of his messangers to be killed a horrible death. In this case, I am told that He made it appear that Jesus (PBUH) was made to appear to be crucified, which we would all say would be a horrible death, but he was not and he was called back to heaven to be with God until the day of judgement. Certainly not a hoax by the standard definition. For further clarification ... I and every Muslim believe Jesus (PBUH) to be one of the kindest and greatest people to ever live. One that should be emulated in every way. We also believe that he is the Messiah (the choosen one) and will come back to earth in the last days. The one small difference is that we do not believe he was / is divine, which is no different than our feelings of any other being on earth. I belive that there is only one God, but that is what is right for me. The rest of you can decide what is right for you, which would include any that don't believe in God at all, or question His existance. One other thing, Allah is Arabic for God, which most of you know. It is better than the word God, as in Arabic Allah is gender neutral. Arabic speaking Christians and Jews refer to God as Allah, not just Muslims. Allah is not the Muslim God and God the Christian God. He is the same. Many non Arabic speakers are starting to use the term Allah, as it is a better term when one understands the root and meaning of the word and the fact that it is gender neutral. Salam / Peace

Thank you, my friend. I have stated that you and I have a history here, some of which I am not proud of. I do appologize for any narrowminded and heated discussion we have had in the past. Both of us have grown since that time. I do appreciate that there are very few Christians, or Muslims, or Jews or ... that preach that you better be one of us, or else. Thank you for posting the video.

I can't believe that I am engaging you, but if you are going to quote the Qur'an you must also include the histrorical reference and the reason for the revelation. At that time the Muslims were constantly being attacked, not by Chritians and Jews, but by the idolater Arabs of Arabia. The Muslims had very good relationships with Christians and Jews. They were *Brothers and Sisters* and *the people of The Book* as described in the Qur'an. Up until this time the Muslims were taught by Muhammad (PBUH) to not fight back and to turn the other check, as revelated earlier in the Qur'an. The ayat that you quote above is in reply to a direct request, from Muhammad (PBUH), for God to reveal what to do, as the Muslims were starting to ask for permission to fight back. In answer to the prayer of Muhammad (PBUH) God revealed the ayat the you quoted above. The basic meaning is yes you can fight back, but only of attacked and the attacker persists. If they stop fighting you must stop and you must not over do it in fighting.

And I thank you all for that support. I also agree that attacks by anyone on anyone are attacks on the whole. The goal should not be to change his beliefs since we then are stooping to preaching. The goal should be to engage in a dialogue that will lead to a more open attitude and a feeling of acceptance of other alternatives beliefs, not only in religion, but in everything.

This is essentially true, but very few are out there preaching that you better come with me, or else. Most religions teach that the we are to respect the others' views andtreat them with respect. The only ones who really do the hard selling are the Evangelical Christians, from my experience. I really wish this were the case, but I have my doubts, especially if I continue to participate in this discussion. His hatred of Islam and, therefore, me knows no bounds.

It is too bad that an Extremist has to ruin it for everybody. All the rest of us were respectful of each other. When one does not have an open mind there is no hope for reasonable discussion. I have been called worse than terrorist, believe it, or not. An extremist is one who attacks another follower (in this case a Christian and I have to say that over the years @Crosschecking and I have had our disagreements, unfortunaltely not all of them in the politest fashion, which I regret. He and I have matured over the years and I have always viewed him as a good man and a true believer and a Brother ...) for nicely calling the extremist out a little bit, we know this thread is dead. I implore @Eleven not to lock it, but to delete it.

Nice try @Eleven. It was a good thread until it wasn't.

D. Roy in his prime was a point a game guy. So, in spite of all the wrangling on here about him he's my guy. For that 1, or 2, year window for the cup. Samson is my guy. I am a Samson guy.

I swear that this is right and I have seen that movie a thousand times.

I don't remember the exact texts and quotes, sorry. I did find a very good summary by my local Imam ... https://www.whyislam.org/common-ground/mohammed-in-the-bible-jesus-prophecy/

If I recall correctly ... the rabbit won that fight.

Well, so much for being civil. I will not address the post above that was in reply to mine, except to say that I respectfully disagree with all of it. It is accepted widely by most Christians that the Gospels have been altered to meet a narrative. Also, down through the ages Prophets fortold of future Prophets. Moses (PBUH) fortold of Jesus (PBUH) and Jesus (PBUH) fortold of Muhammad (PBUH) and many others. Nice try @Eleven, I am a bit surprised it lasted as long as it did. I wish everyone who is celebrating the day in any way a very Blessed Easter.

That's pretty much it.

An internet hug, my friend.

Oh boy, this COVID-19 thing can't end fast enough. Let's just group hug while the world is coming to an end and worry about paying fopr it later. Now, I suggest that everyone just kiss and make up before it's too late.

@Brawndo and all others on here and all that you are working with that we don't know ... Thank you, so very much for your service. We could not and will not make it through this without you. To quote my Premier ... the rest of us need to do our part and *stay the blazes home*. Thank you.

Terrible. So young.

Patience, my friend, almost is just that. Almost ...

Hello, hello ... is this thing still on? I don't think my Fridays will ever be the same again.

You are correct. The system in Canada is exactly the same as in the US, except in who pays for it and that we usually can't get the needed care / treatments in a reasonable time frame.

I slept like a baby last night for the first time since I was a baby. In bed at mid-night and did not move until noon. 12 hours ... sorry @Eleven

I tend to agree that many things done by people as part of their faith are not really part of the teachings, especially in Christianity. That said, many of the Jewish traditions and strong beliefs (no pork ...) are in the Torah, which are the teachings of Moses (PBUH), which is believed to be delivered to Moses (PBUH) by God, not only by Jews, but by Muslims, as well. The Qur'an commands Muslims fast during the holy month of Ramadan, with clearly outlined exemptions which are far reaching.

Yes. Adapted. The original Christians were devout Jews and did not ever consider Jesus (PBUH) as *God*, or *Son of God*. Jesus (PBUH) never made such a claim. The Trinity idea and the notion of Jesus (PBUH) being divine came considerable time after his death. Very few Christians have not accepted that notion, but there are still some around. The largest sect is in Eygpt, I believe. I did not know that you are a Muslim. To my knowledge, Islam is the only religion to accept and embrace science. In fact, the two are very closely related. The Qur'an is full of scientific facts that basically prove it's authenticity in that no human in the time of Muhammad (PBUH) had any idea about what was relayed in the Qur'an.

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