Crusader1969
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a blog about Kylington - Doesn't change my opinion of him. If it was a skating competition, i'm sure he would be a top 10 pick. His poor play, especially defensive zone mistakes makes me want to stay clear of him in round 1. Even if the Sabres trade down to late first round there will be better options. http://flamesnation.ca/2015/6/8/flames-first-round-targets-2015-oliver-kylington
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its a chance to find a high end winger. The guys at 21 are good players but he has a chance to be elite. The Sabres are the one team that have enough prospects that if one decides never to play in NHL (doubtful with current state of KHL) it won't be a huge loss.
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im with you on Zacha if he drops out of the top 10. My gut tells me he will go around 7 and out of reach for the Sabres. Im sticking with Guryanov at 21 for the Sabres too much skill and talent to pass up- maybe they should start a rumour that he is headed to the KHL and pick him at 31? from the USA today: As Red Line Report's chief scout sat in the stands last month in Switzerland at the World Under-18 Championships, he watched the action on the ice during Russia's games and then studied our rankings from the April issue. And the obvious jumped out at him: We had broken our own long-standing rule about ranking prospects only based on their merits as players. That, as we have viewed it, is the only real function of a truly independent scouting service. So looking at our rankings of several Russians — specifically Denis Guryanov, Ilya Samsonov, Nikolai Chebykin, and Kirill Kaprizov — we realized that subconsciously, we had artificially downgraded their actual talent level because of the "Russian factor." Well, no more. Back to our guiding principle. Therefore, we have adjusted those players' rankings significantly this month to reflect our true beliefs. And that means, first of all, that Guryanov is up to No. 8 overall - because if his last name were Smith and he had played this season in the Ontario Hockey League, there's no way he wouldn't be a top 10 pick. Denis Guryanov (Lada Togliatti): Has the hardest, and best, shot of anyone in the draft. No question in our minds that he's a top 10 overall talent.
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id rather watch paint dry than watch let alone pay attention to baseball but that's beside the point. Im just saying that you are setting yourself up for disappointment if you are going to put a play-off run on a team who's top 2 centers under this scenario would have played a total of 9 NHL games. Its good you have optimism and I hate being Debbie Downer - just don't be upset if the team ends up around 75 to 80 points but take a huge step forward over the last two seasons. I also agree with Button that this off-season the Sabres should do NOTHING. I don't need to see them trade assets for O'Reilly who has 1 year left on his contract and would project to a #2 center long term. Sabres already have Reinhart and Girgensons to add to Eichel as top 3 centers long term for them. I'd like for them to sit back give all the kids 1 more season, figure out who is going to be here long term and who they can afford to trade. I wouldn't even mind seeing Grigorenko in the top 3 this coming season with Samson in the minors. Maybe he can used as a trade chip next summer if he has a decent year - teams are always looking for a big, skilled winger. Hell, he may even turn himself into a contender for long term 2nd line center long term and move Samson to the 3 slot, and Girgensons to the wing. Off-season game plan - sign a Chris Stewart type RW, a depth D and a goalie. Unless an opportunity comes up to trade for an elite winger comes up again, like it did with Kane, then I sit back as GM and let my high-end Scotch Whiskey age for another year.
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I completely agree with Button when he said "if you think the Sabres will be a play-off team next year the only person you are kidding is yourself"
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Now that Bob has posted his list I've averaged out the lists of 6 top draft sources: 1) Connor McDavid - avg ranking 1 2) Jack Eichel - 2 3) Mitch Marner - 4.16 4) Noah Hanifin - 4.67 5) Dylan Strome - 5 6) Ivan Provorov - 7.33 7) Zack Werenski 8.82 8) Mathew Barzal 9.83 9) Lawson Crouse 10 10) Mikko Rantanen 10.5 11) Kyle Conner 10.83 12) Pavel Zacha 12.67 13) Timo Meier 13.5 14) Yevgeni Svechnikov 16.33 15) Travis Konecny 18.33 16) Brock Boeser 19.67 17( Joel Eriksson Ek 20.17 18) Colin White 21.17 19) Jakub Zboril 22.5 20) Jeremy Roy 22.67 21) Thomas Chabot 25.17 22) Jake DeBruck 25.83 23) Ilya Samsonov 27.17 24) Denis Guryanov 27.17 25) Paul Bittner 27.67 26) Daniel Sprong 28.33 27) Jansen Harkins 28.83 28) Jacob Larsson 29.5 29) Noah Juulsen 32 30) Jack Roslovic 33 31) Anthony Beauvillier 34.17 51) Gilliam Brisebois
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and look he is in the #21 slot? Great point on LA and Boston!
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I think the line that John Cooper used on Drouin the other day may fit Sprong perfectly - has to realize that there are two nets on the ice.
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Craig Button was also interviewed yesterday and gave two potential picks for the Sabres at 21. 1) Samsonov - (already discussed on board) thinks he is in the mold of Holtby 2) Guryanov - who I mentioned earlier this week Button on Guryanov "he is so explosive, so skilled, so dynamic and quite frankly, I don't like to push 18 year olds into the National Hockey League but he might be closer to playing in the league than further away" "He has high end NHL potential" Under 18 Guryanov highlites:
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Max Jones commits to the London Knights for the 2015-16 season. http://www.am980.ca/2015/06/03/london-knights-max-jones/
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anyone interested in doing a Sabre Space 2015 mock draft? taking turns to draft pick 3 through 30. I'll let Tim Murray's grandmother make picks 1 and 2. In-box me if you want to be a manager.
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the Finnish's Finish ability shouldn't be questioned yet. I understand he didnt score at the WJC but had 12 goals in 11 games in the Finnish under 20 league and 4 goals in 21 games in the mens league.
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1000% agree and it won't be close - the kid is dynamite. Leafs may be forced to take Strome since they are desperate for a Center. Lets not forget Bozak is still their #1 center.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Another early look at the 2016 by Draft Buzz 1. Auston Matthews, C, 6’2’’ 194 lbs, USNTDP U18, USHL 2. Jakob Chychrun, D, 6’2’’ 194 lbs, Sarnia Sting, OHL Report: More explosive than Ekblad, with as much offensive maturity in his stick. 3. Jesse Puljujarvi, RW, 6’3’’ 196 lbs, Karpat, LIIGA Report: Dominant outside threat is a shot machine. At risk for a fall if comp figures his speed out. 4. Matthew Tkachuk, LW, 6’1’’ 187 lbs, USNTDP U18, USHL Report: Beast with booksmarts and street fight can do it all. 5. Clayton Keller, C, 5’9’’ 165 lbs, USNTDP U17, USHL Report: Pure skill is Marner-like; could rise to top 3, waiting for physical growth. 6. Dmitri Sokolov, LW, 6’2’’ 212 lbs, Omskie Yastreby, MHL Report: Russian sniper rips twine off iron he shoots so much. 7. Alexander Nylander, RW, 5’10’’ 157 lbs, AIK, SUPERELIT Report: That legend of traits skipping generations doesn’t exist in this family. Possession King just like his bro. 8. Tyler Benson, LW, 6’0’’ 196 lbs, Vancouver Giants, WHL Report: Dominant shooter handles and carries team like a top pick. 9. Chad Krys, D, 5’11’’ 183 lbs, USNTDP U18, USHL Report: Could compete in figure skating with no problem; executes hockey plays with 3D vision. 10.Sam Steel, C, 5’11’’ 172 lbs, Regina Pats, WHL Report: Right up there with Keller for shorty with dynamite in his skates and
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Here are some recent rankings for Guryanov - Craigs List 20, Future Considerations 24, Draft Buzz 10, Mckeens Hockey 22, ISS 24. Those are the only ones I know of that have done their final rankings. I agree with a dislike for Kylington but the highest I've seen him ranked is 29 and the lowest is 70. Of course, there are more than just the 5 ranks out there that I've seen so far.
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Here is a player that we haven't brought up much but I keep seeing his name in the early to late 20's. Denis Guryanov RW Ladia Togliatti (MHL) From Future Considerations' "STRENGTHS: The big Russian winger is a speedy and skilled forward who has potent offensive ability. A very quick skater who can pick up steam in an instant and break plays open. Guryanov is a poised puck carrier who has a long reach and great hands to remain elusive to checkers" Weekness - WEAKNESSES: The birth certificate is his main area of concern. Guryanov has made no commitment to playing in the NHL and has not expressed his interest, meaning he is a real risk for the NHL team that selects him. If his name was John Smith from Toronto, he would likely be considered a top 10 pick by many teams. I think Sabres could be a team to risk it on him with their second pick in the first round.
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The Sabres Hockey Hotline with... somebody or other?
Crusader1969 replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
You need him to be ready to play in your top 6. there is no use having him take over McCormack's role on the 4th line. If he isn't top 6 ready then you need him to go to Roch. -
wont the odds change if the team holding the 20% chance get the top pick? then you would have 7.5% chance (up from 6% of getting pick #2). if the teams with the best odds of getting #1 and #2 end up with pick 1 & 2 in either order then the team with the 8th best odds would be near 10% of getting the 3rd pick. I think this is right but not 100% I still wouldn't trade away the Sabres #1 pick in 2016 because the top 7 or 8 in 2016 look like really good players. Plus, you would have to have a really good deal on the table to trade away your #1 pick with the draft in your city
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Looks like we are down to 1 highly ranked player to commit for the 2015-16 season (Matthews) as both Jost and Fabbro have both decided to stay at Penticton of the BCHL. think this means both will head to NCAA in 20016-17.
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Hanifin is a surprise - think it may be trying to stand out and be different from other rankings. Merkley at 11 is higher than what I've seen before - not to mention that he is above Barzal. He definitely isn't high on my two prospects - Zacha (I assumed we have to move up to get him) at 24 and Sprong at 38 (i was interested in with the 21st pick). Kylington is down at 48 - I believe he may be the biggest faller on almost all draft boards (including mine) from the beginning of the season. He has Samsonov at 14 as the first goalie on the list
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isn't it as simple as he will play vs men and earn about $500,000k. Plus I can think of worse places to live for a year than in Switzerland, Finland or Sweden.
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List of combine invites: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=768184 How about adding the 3rd tallest player in the 2015 draft with the 31st pick to upgrade Sabres D Depth: Brando Carlo: Future Considerations quote "A big, nasty, physical defensive defender. He’s an absolute monster out on the ice and skates extremely well for his size. His footwork is not perfect but definitely at a higher level than you would expect for someone who is six-foot-five." ranked 38th
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78 points bottom 10 in league but making a huge step forward and ready to content in 16-17.
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now reported that it is close to 100% Matthews to Europe however teams from Sweden and Finland have entered the bidding.
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didnt post link - assumed most didn't have access to it.