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He's currently in Canada

Go home Krebs, you're drunk

Maybe attack the shooter instead of standing there Tuch

Tuch, come the tuch on.

Yea... add Jiricek to this defense

Owen Power is going to prove my draft rankings wrong and I love it

And Thompson.... now there's 2 giants out there and it's hard to tell them apart

Those few weeks matter. If Buffalo signs Portillo in April, we can burn a year off his elc. If he goes to ufa in August that can't happen. Considering he's a business major, he might understand why that actually is important.

Strange you never felt like this about Botteril. Ik your position, I think it's wrong and I laid out why.

You don't understand my stance. This saying that you and now others are repeating I find meaningless in this context. Totally meaningless. Ullmark isn't good or better than what is sitting in Rochester. I'm always amused that you think you need to "clarify the matter" and "you don't understand". You repeat the same thing so often in so many threads it's quite easy to understand your stance but sadly you've failed to understand mine. You think Ullmark is a solution and I do not, it's that simple. I never said end all.

May is different then August for this, a lot different.

"We've got some trees back there"

This coming from someone that ragged on Reinhart for 7 years is something

None of these are goalies. It is really telling when you can't argue against what I have shown on Gibson but have to resort to whatbout this other non-related player as the counter. John Gibson isn't good and this is the 2nd offseason of ppl claiming he will magically get better. Any improvement to Gibson will be incremental and hinge more on the defense than his abilities at this point.

Yes because in public health you are looking at using an intervention to get x improvement but in hockey you are looking at I need to win Y more games. You are focused on winning 4 more games a year and I am over here saying that doesn't matter when you need to win 20 more games a year. However you get to that 20 more games can be debated but Ullmark wasn't going to get you much more. You need the level above him.

I'm sorry what? In the last 3 years for goalies with 10 games started: Gibson's sv% has been .904, .903, and .904 Gibson is 46th, 43rd, and 42nd in save% over the last 3 years Gibson is 46th, 43rd, and 42nd in goals saved above average in the last 3 years He has been absolutely terrible basically since he got paid. He has shown no signs of being what he was at 24yrs old and he is signed for another 5 years after this season ends. It isn't about an opinion it is about facts and the fact is John Gibson is no longer a good NHL goaltender. If your opinion is the 45th-ish best goalie in the league is going to take us anywhere, well that's on you.

And right there is the problem. Tyrod Taylor was a middling QB who wasn't winning you anything. Ullmark is a middling GT that isn't winning you anything. Sometimes you need to pass on the meh things to get to the better things.

Button's top 50 NHL affiliated (drafted) prospects https://www.tsn.ca/owen-power-top-nhl-prospects-1.1784400

Idk why you like Gibson, he's not good and hasn't been in close to half a decade. He hasn't had a positive GSAA since 2018/19. Since 2017/18 his ev sv% has decreased every single year from a high of .927/.928 down to .903 He is not good and will not be good suddenly. He has 5 more years on his contract and a M-NTC meaning you get his full cap for 5 years with almost no way to trade him. He might be one of the least attractive goalie options available in the entire NHL.

Honestly overpaying Fluery is the best idea in this thread currently. The other options literally sound like Bills fans talking about how AJ McCarron was going to be good for us because he won a natty in college.

Please stop. John Gibson hasn't even been a decent starter in 4 years, he isn't going to suddenly "reclaim" that form and skill. OMFG the guy is signed for 5, yes FIVE more years at 6.4million. I would rather play UPL than trade assets for John Gibson and his M-NTC at 6.4mil for the next 5 seasons. That's honestly concerning because John Gibson hasn't been good in 4 years and is only getting older. His contract sucks too and is for at least 2 years to long. UPL has a better NHL sv% in his 9 games than Gibson has had since 2018. I would rather jump into lake erie in March than trade a moldy pizza log for John Gibson.

I'm sorry, are you saying we should trade Portillo and the Florida 1st for John Gibson? Feel like you undercut your own argument at the end. UPL isn't good yet you argue that UPL is Ullmark like and we should have signed Ullmark. What if, both aren't that good?

@JohnC let me simplify this. You believe that Ullmark represents a solution to our goaltending problem. I don't think Ullmark represents a solution to our goaltending problem. That's basically what all this boils down to.