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ain't no passing craze

I don't follow you. Are you saying Savoie will be better than Quinn?

I personally think Quinn will replace Olofssons scoring.

I'm going with yes, he's definitely a top 10 player.

I've stated my feelings. You don't have to agree. Hopefully this upcoming season is better. Guess that makes 2 of us.

I do not care. I, do not, care. You are conflating my happiness with the football team as well and I am perfectly happy. This is like saying oh in the 90s the Bills went to 4 Superbowls so don't criticize the team now, they gave you that. That isn't what this is about for me and you do not or will not understand my point. I do not care about the 17 year draught and using that as an excuse for why the Bills cannot even make their conference championship is a hell of a stretch. One I, one last time, do not care about. It is such an irrelevant point I cannot even begin to articulate why not making the playoffs for 17 years is irrelevant to 13 seconds and the Bengals asswhooping this team just experienced. I'm not ungrateful for questioning the current state of the team and honestly it is fairly offensive to suggest that.

You three don't understand what I am trying to point out. It's fine that is on me. The Bills aren't good enough, they were just blown out at home by the Bengals and it would have been the 2nd time in 4 weeks that happened. Beane's drafting is questionable. Dorsey's playcalling was HIGHLY questionable. Frazier's defense has choked in back to back to back playoffs. So if think that is okay, fine. But please stop acting like I am saying "superbowl or bust" because that's not it. This team looked like a dumpster fire in the playoffs, why can't we even consider that the coaching and management is part of the reason? If Buffalo hadn't lost 13 seconds or had a close loss to the Bengals, I would view this differently but they didn't. It is the same mistakes on offense and the same easy ways to beat our defense. Guess we shall see how this year goes because they aren't firing anyone.

After Georgia beat Ohio State they interviewed Kirby Smart on the field. He said some good things about his team but he also said they weren't good enough. He was especially harsh on his QB who to that point was 14-0 and 28-1 over the last 29 games. Why? Because if your standard is just "well we won so whatever" than you have no standard. Im not critical of them because they didn't win the Superbowl. I'm critical because in the last 5 years the Chiefs and Bengals have both gone to or won the Superbowl. Both have gone to the conference finals as well. Buffalo made the conference final once. So if winning some regular season games is your metric that's fine, but what they did this season and how they looked isn't acceptable and I don't honestly give a ***** about what happened in the 17 year drought. If you aren't even open to the idea that their are better ppl out there than Beane and McDermott, we should end this here because I'll don't believe that and you quoting 51 wins at me doesn't change that. Again you are content because they are good. I'm not. Things that aren't relevant. It isn't and you and others trying to tell me it is might be one of the weakest arguments ever proffered on this board.

I want you to go look around the league at teams 3rd line centers and see how many of them are 35pt players. For the record I think Jost can hit 40 but that's what a 3rd line basically is. Charlie Coyle plays for the Bruins. They are 1st in the league in points and in scoring. He is currently pacing for 17g, 26a, 43 points.

They didn't win. That's my issue.

Horvat is shooting 8.1% over his career average right now. I think it highly likely that it regresses some and certainly will over the course of the 7 year deal he gets, buyer beware.

Yes. Josh Allen is a cheat code. Look you aren't going to convince me this is the best run franchise after this season. There were obvious holes in March that were not touched, the GM hasn't drafted an all pro in 4 drafts, the defense bends continually and needed the best UFA edge to be good. It isn't important, I don't believe in the Bills coaches and GM so until they do something that changes it, you aren't going to convince me this team is "one of the best run".

in what way? Their drafting is questionable, their acquisitions have been questionable, their coaching is in question. I don't think they are a badly run franchise but idk if I think they are "one of the best run". Again, you are comparing this to past Bills teams and that is not relevant when they should be compared to the league now.

As I was told with Reinhart, if he hasn't captained in the NHL he isn't a leader. Yes some of that sentence is tongue and cheek

This right here is what is wrong with Bills fans. It doesn't matter they have been successful compared to franchise history. What matters is do they have the ability to win the Superbowl. We have never even won the conference. We've only had 1 shot at that and we got smoked. I will give them this offseason to "identify what went wrong" but again this isn't just a what went wrong this year type of thing.

Do your own research. Eichel trade rumors started a full year before he was moved. Risto trade rumors were ongoing for 2-3 years. It was pretty obvious we would trade Staal after we sucked that year. Idk what you are looking for. You are basically asking us to prove which rumors were actual leaks but since Eichel, Risto, and Staal all got moved... I guess all of them were leaks.

The issue with Timo Meier isn't his play but his qualifying offer. It would almost have to be a rental for the Sabres to maintain their salary structure unless they plan on giving Meier 10million bucks for a couple of years.

Is the goal to win 13 games or to win the Superbowl? Let me put it this way. Going into the season I was at DEFCON 4 with McDermott and Dorsey and DEFCON 3 with Frazier. Beane I hadn't thought about much. Now, I am at DEFCON 2 across the board for all of them. DEFCOM 1 is they must be fired immediately. They won 13 games but the back half of that season did not look right across the board.

Honestly when he was acquired my response was just "ok meh whatever" but in the last month he's really come into his own on this team. The reason for this thread is because it appears that Jost's style meshes well with what Mitts and VO do. That line went from dear lord trade Mitts and VO to hey they aren't bad at all. I feel like Jost is the biggest variable because he has allowed Mitts to slide to wing (he's a winger for me now) and has allowed Olofsson to default back to his sniper role. Jost is better Zemgus impo where he can skate fast, take the body, dig pucks out, but also has some soft hands and an okay shot. I know we often put them as the 3rd line listed but in reality I think we have something more like this happening. Skinner - Tage - Tuch JJP - Cozens - Quinn OR Mitts - Jost - Oloffson Zemgus - Krebs - Okposo We have no real 4th line but we have 2 second lines that depending on the night seem to go off at different times. I think Jost being able to be an effective center for Mitts and VO is the reason why. Thoughts on Jost's play?

I saw the projected point totals for the playoff cutoff, it was 92.5 right now. Buffalo just has to keep winning.

Moving Mitts to wing and putting him with Jost has almost singlehandedly changed how that line plays.

Why this has faulty logic. UPL, imo, gave up 2 goals I would have liked to see him stop. Because he gave up those 2 goals I would have liked to see him stop, we were in a 1 goal game in the 3rd period necessitating that he make those other stops that you and others are giving him so much praise for. So by saying things like he won it for us in the last 10 minutes it ignores the fact, again IMO, that we were in a 1 goal game to begin with. Also in the last 10 minutes he made 2 stops that were nice and one was by the paddle of ethron lucky. Again it doesn't really matter since we won. My comment that I would like to see Comrie get a start had more to do with the team in front of him than UPL. Comrie has never really played in front of this Sabres team and I'd like to know what we have in him.

Nah. I'm going to bed. Glad we won.

We don't know because he's barely played since November.