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Are The Sabres A Dark Horse Contender for Jakob Chychrun?
LGR4GM replied to Brawndo's topic in The Aud Club
Adams got almost exactly what he said the price was. -
An injured Jack Eichel was traded for Alex Tuch and Peyton Krebs, so we did this last year. I guess we could argue it wasn't high picks (we shouldn't trade 1st round picks) and idk what prospect we should be trading for Simon Benoit.
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The 12 team playoff is trash. 8 is the magic number and probably always has been. It adds 1 extra game and no one needs to see Kansas State play Georgia. With 12 you have a freaking 4 team bye week in which 5 plays 12 and then you actually get to what I am talking about, what a freaking waste.
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Skinner has a NTC and wouldn't that indicate we are not trying to win? So do you want us to surround the team with veterans and try to win or sell off all the UFAs whenever we are short of the playoffs and let the kids really struggle the last 2 months of the season? Which is it?
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Are The Sabres A Dark Horse Contender for Jakob Chychrun?
LGR4GM replied to Brawndo's topic in The Aud Club
At least 2 of the things listed here would need to be in the Chychrun trade if I am Arizona (I added Östlund back in to what you listed btw). I bet you can lottery protect the 1st but it is in that trade, no chance in hell they will move Chychrun without a shot at another 2023 first. They aren't taking Johnson unless that replaces the 2nd round pick. They know as well as Adams that Johnson can go to August and become a UFA. Look, I am telling you what it would probably take to get him. If it were less than that, Chyrchun would have been moved. If a a 2024 1st, Johnson, a 2023 2nd, and Mitts would get it done, it would be done. -
Are The Sabres A Dark Horse Contender for Jakob Chychrun?
LGR4GM replied to Brawndo's topic in The Aud Club
Your only modification to my trade is removing JJP for Krebs 2023 Lottery Protected 1st, Östlund, Krebs instead of JJP (I don't think Arizona does this), and a 2nd in 2023 (probably the middle 2nd). Really quickly, Krebs being a 1st round pick is somewhat irrelevant right now. Again though, this is the reported asking price, are ppl willing to pay that for Chychrun? Those are the key words though. Risk is involved and Arizona is rebuilding. -
This point is very important. It isn't that good players defy the curve per say but that they are coming from such a higher peak they still positively contribute. Idk if he does that but xGF models try to fit goal scoring curves so they should overlay closely.
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xG/60 stands for expected goals per 60min of ice time. It is a metric that tries to take into account where goals are scored and how frequently to help filter out some of the noise with the randomness of hockey (if you shoot higher than average you will outproduce your xGF like Thompson has and if you shoot below average you see the inverse... Cozens). Anyways what does that have to do with this? Well here is the average age curve for NHL production. This is important when thinking about timelines of players and where they are in their careers. NOTE! you can absolutely outperform the curve but it shows us an average and most players will fall within 1 standard deviation of that average. Stop assuming every player is a special snowflake, Tage Thompson is an exception, Mitts is probably the rule. Anyways, here is the average for offense and defense. If you are really curious, there is a good discussion in this thread by Micah on this.
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GDT: New Jervils at Buffalo, 11/25/22, 8pm, MSG, WGR.
LGR4GM replied to Eleven's topic in The Aud Club
oh like drafting first overall in 2017 and 2019 and then waiting another 2 years after 2019 to really start pushing because those 2 first overall picks take a little to grow into their games. so that is like drafting first overall in 2018 and 2020 and then waiting ... hold on... that would mean pushing this summer in 2023 if we follow the NJD timeline. Huh... interesting. BTW the Devils also drafted 4th and 2nd (I think both were lottery wins) recently so they also have 2 top flight defenders incoming next season in Hughes and Nemec. -
Are The Sabres A Dark Horse Contender for Jakob Chychrun?
LGR4GM replied to Brawndo's topic in The Aud Club
Sure but do you want to trade... 2023 1st (probably can get it top 10 protected), one of Kulich, Östlund, Savoie, one of the 2nds in 2023, and something else like Quinn or JJP for him? That is what they are asking, idk if that is what they get but they haven't budged yet. 2023 1st, Östlund, 2023 2nd, JJP for Chychrun Yes or No? -
Of course because then the narrative can be they are giving Sheahan ice time even though he isn't good enough because the sabres aren't prioritizing winning. Once you realize the goal here is to ***** talk the team and disagree with everything they do because you are mad at them, it all becomes really simple and clear.
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Let's talk about actual damaging stuff an organization can do... Here is the complaint and the appendix is where you need to go to see what it alleged to have happened.
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I'm wondering if Kyle retires. He'll be 35 at seasons end and he's gotta know they next contract he gets will be way less and only 1yr or maybe 2. That means he's got the potential for waivers or to bounce around at deadlines. Maybe he says nah, and just calls it.
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GDT: New Jervils at Buffalo, 11/25/22, 8pm, MSG, WGR.
LGR4GM replied to Eleven's topic in The Aud Club
That's what happens when you allow highly talented 5'10" 160lb players to grow up to be 5'11" 176lb players, although I think he weighs more than that. Basically I'm saying we need to be patient with Rosen, Kulich, Östlund, and Kisakov -
GA, Michigan, TCU, and USC are the 4. I suppose someone could implode during conference championship week but the top 3 I think are locks.
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GDT: New Jervils at Buffalo, 11/25/22, 8pm, MSG, WGR.
LGR4GM replied to Eleven's topic in The Aud Club
This is exactly what's happening. Panthers panicked after an unlucky playoff loss and njd are benefiting -
GDT: New Jervils at Buffalo, 11/25/22, 8pm, MSG, WGR.
LGR4GM replied to Eleven's topic in The Aud Club
I'm gonna get to read this stuff after every loss aren't I? "Adams didn't do anything to help" "Granato isn't as good is *insert other coach here*" Sounds fun. -
GDT: New Jervils at Buffalo, 11/25/22, 8pm, MSG, WGR.
LGR4GM replied to Eleven's topic in The Aud Club
He wasn't imo but he played far better than he has recently. Best player to me was Quinn. He just controls pace with the puck. Jjp also had a great pass to Cozens for the tap in but Cozens couldn't cash it. -
GDT: New Jervils at Buffalo, 11/25/22, 8pm, MSG, WGR.
LGR4GM replied to Eleven's topic in The Aud Club
Jack Quinn and JJP have been pretty solid tonight. -
Oh good. Got worried when they tied it with 48 seconds left.