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Forton said they specifically talk about how the position a guy plays doesn't matter. Basically they double check their bias to make sure that's not why a player is ranked over another.

No it doesn't. I have no idea what you have read that said that but I will flat out say it is wrong to trade down in the first round of the NHL draft. Every single analysis of historical draft trends show that the further back in the draft you get the more luck is involved and the more unlikely you become to get an NHL player. In the NFL you can move back and still get an NFL player because you know what you are getting. I am fuming that this is your conclusion because it is ass backwards. If pick 13 yields an NHL players 58% of the time and you think it is a good idea to trade down to 25 (30% NHL hit rate) because you pick up a 2nd rounder (20% hit rate) idk what to say to that. It gets worse the further down you move. For example if you trade out of round 2 (pick 45) and you get a 3rd a 5th and 6th, you have effectively done nothing more than give yourself less of a chance at an NHL player. It is why trading up for JJP made sense. https://dobberprospects.com/2020/05/16/nhl-draft-pick-probabilities/

No the guy who wrote the tweet you are referring to literally said it was sarcasm.

Yup, ***** it, trade for Pesce and re-sign him. Worry about when and if that becomes an issue later.

Full trade:

Historical data says there is a huge difference between 13 and 24 in the NHL draft. Trading down in the NHL draft is terrible idea in the first round and sometimes the 2nd. This isn't the NFL.

Yup. Dylan Cozens: 6'3" 22yrd old Tage Thompson: 6'7" 25yrs old Alex Tuch: 6'4" 27yrs old Jordan Greenway: 6'6" 26yrs old only 2 forwards that are 5'11" (none are under that) are JJP and Skinner On defense... Rasmus Dahlin: 6'3" 23yrs old Owen Power: 6'6" 20yrs old Mattias Samuelson: 6'4" 23yrs old Ilya Lyubushkin: 6'2" 29yrs old The only defender under 6' is Jacob Bryson I fully expect the BPA at 13 to either be Simashev or a forward. Honzek, Richie, Musty and Barlow would all be options that are over 6' tall.

The Sabres are 16th in average height btw. Florida Panthers were 23rd. Vegas was 5th (hence Pronman's take). The big bad bruins were 18th. This myth is coming back and I knew it would. That the Sabres are this small team of cute little powder puffs. They aren't. They are basically league average. On defense, they are above league average if we pretend Bryson doesn't exist. If you can add talent with size, excellent do it. However and I always say this, don't draft the Maveric Lamoureux's of the world when the Issac Howard's of the world give you a far better talent level.

I take everything Pronman says with a huge grain of salt. I also think this is one of his worst takes. Buffalo's biggest draft need is defense, they have maybe 3 guys in their defensive prospect pool.

Sometimes.

I'd love all our forwards to be Alex Tuch (6'4") but I won't overdraft tall dudes for being tall, see Maveric Lamoureux

Anybody wanna draft Canadian JJP?

I would note the Greenway pick is 64th. It's the worst a 2nd round pick could be. You hope you find a Greenway with a pick that late.

Idk, jjp is a baller. He's a guy that helps you win in June.

I'm not saying you're wrong about JJP. I would caution a little because the German team has to rely on a guy like JJP, he's gonna get opportunities. Jack and Alex had different roles and short tournaments are sometimes weird.

You lost me at trading JJPeterka

So you can either die a hero, or see yourself live long enough to become the villain.

They missed the playoffs by 1 point, they have plenty of fire.

The youngest team in the league needed to learn, and learn they did. Adding random player X doesn't change the equation much. Sometimes, it's better to let someone fail and learn than it is to give them a solution that saves their ass.

The Sabres will make the playoffs this year, so we'll see.

I'm not sold on wood as a top 6 forward. The footspeed and edges aren't there for me but he might get there. At 13 I wouldn't lose my mind over it.

I encourage you to watch him at the u18. I wouldn't call him dominant.

Also I like how you just completely discount moves you don't like. They added Greenway at the deadline and tried on Chychrun. You accusing me a loser mentality is farce considering your lost a bet claiming this team was such a bunch of losers they would finish bottom 5.