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Cozens had 2 rookies on his line and even though Quinn and JJP are good, he still was held back slightly by that. I expect great things this year from Cozens. 80pts+

Levi is a rare breed. He charts his own path and is unstoppable.

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That's right there betrays what this thread is really about. You want Terry to sell and dislike Kim Pegula. Idc because I don't know either of them but an unsubstantiated claim that Terry is selling is because you think they have run the team poorly (they have) doesn't make the rest of us hung up on anything.

Harbor Center.

Feel like it was in a post game presser.

Good. I knew I liked him, he understands his goals and is internally motivated to achieve them.

Rumors that Kane wants to go to Detroit. Take them with all the grains of salt. Does this guy know anything? Probably not but it's still the offseason so.

He'll be the best defencemen in the league.

It is and has been the most logical line combo since Quinn was injured. We've been talking about this line combo for 2 months already. Skinner - Tage - Tuch JJP - Cozens - Mitts Greenway - Krebs - Olofsson Zemgus - Jost - Okposo Rousek

Went with 2 but I'm hoping 1. It all depends on how quick Levi adjusts to nhl teams attacking his weaknesses.

Hard to tell with a guy with only 18 Sabres games to his name. I'd hope he is a solid 6/7 defender

I go to the tweet I want and in the lower right corner is the share option. I click share - copy link. Then I post it here and wait a few seconds for the forum to embed the tweet after I post it. It usually takes 2-5 seconds for the forum to actually do its embedding and if you post before that it doesn't work.

This just reminds us all that you need 5 separate channels/apps to watch Sabres games. The NHL is a dumpster fire when it comes to how they broadcast their product.

The problem with Detroit's/Yzerman's strategy is that the league has changed from the mid 20-teens to now. It has greatly changed from the early 2000s to now. The league is trending to younger and more skilled. Yzerman doesn't have a game breaking.

What?

Wait, wait wait. This was freaking written yesterday? What a giant pile of trash. It's the worst written thing I've ever read. The writers should feel ashamed.

Depends on how you feel about Krebs, Greenway, Mitts and I suppose possibly Cozens (although I think Olofsson's lack of grit or defense make it less likely he sticks with Cozens 5v5). Last year Olofsson was paired with Mitts and it was death, like truly atrocious in terms of how they operated together. It is why I just can't see him getting that again but I could see Mitts going to play with Cozens and JJP.

27% of Buffalo's 1st or 2nd round picks from 2019 to now have been either defenders or goalies. That's 4 out of 15 picks. 58% of Detroit's draft 1st or 2nd round picks from 2019 to now have been either defenders or goalies. That's 11 out of 19 picks. 46% of Ottawa's draft 1st or 2nd round picks from 2019 to now have been either defenders or goalies. That's 6 out of 13 picks. While Detroit has had the most 1st or 2nd round picks since 2019, they have used the least percentage of them on forwards and to be honest it shows. Instead they have drafted: Sebastian Cossa G, Trey Augustine G, Axel Sandin Pelikka D, Andrew Gibson D, Brady Cleveland D, Simon Edvinsson D, Shai Buium D, William Willinder D, Moritz Seider D, Albert Johansson D and Antti Tuomisto D. That's 2 goalies and 9 defenders. The only forwards they have drafted in that time are: Robert Mastrosimone, Lucas Raymond, Theodor Niederbach, Cross Hanas, Marco Kasper, Dylan James, Dmitri Buchelnikov, and Nate Danielson. Note that Mastrosimone was not signed by Detroit and is slated to play for Marlies in the AHL this yeas.

Goals For and Goals Against Buffalo: 296gf, 300ga Detroit: 240gf, 279ga Ottawa: 261gf, 271ga This is where I would be the most concerned for Detroit. Yes, they added DeBrincat and that will help but does it really bring them up by at minimum 21goals? They also lost Kubalik's 20g. Detroit's biggest issue is that Stevie Y has prioritized high floor lower (not low but lower) ceiling players in his drafts. He seems to really like 50pt-60pt guys over say a more flawed but possible 90pt guy. Danielson and Raymond are probably the most dynamic forwards he's drafted and they would both need to hit their ceiling. Idk, I worry about Detroit.

The 200s are really the best place for this. There is actually room and a few places where you can hangout outside of your seats without being run over in the compressed, cramped, and otherwise AWFUL 300 level concourse.

One more addition: Top 3 scoring forwards on each team and top scoring defender (have to still be on the team this upcoming season). This means DeBrincat counts for Detroit not Ottawa. Sabres: Thompson 47g, 47a, 94pts - Skinner 35g, 47a, 82pts - Tuch 36g, 43a, 79pts - Dahlin 15g, 58a, 73pts Redwings: Larkin 32g, 47a, 79pts - DeBrincat 27g, 39a, 66pts - Perron 24g, 32a, 56pts - Seider 5g, 37a, 42pts Senators: Stutzle 39g, 51a, 90pts - Tkachuk 35g, 48a, 83pts - Giroux 35g, 44a, 79pts - Chabot 11g, 30a, 41pts

I guess I understand. For me it just is a odd way to word it if that makes sense. Basically you are saying Buffalo has a higher ceiling and Detroit has a lower ceiling which they are rapidly approaching? Buffalo's floor has already surpassed Detroit's which is why I find the "behind them" part of this confusing terminology.

This came out of a conversation in another thread but as we go into a new season I think it is a good idea to review where we sit in regards to our "peers". In this instance peers meaning other teams in the middle of rebuilds in our own division. Ottawa, Detroit, and Buffalo are all relatively close in that regards and fit what I am talking about. It is assumed that 1 of the 3 will finally break into the playoffs (more could). So the question is at this point in time, who is further along in their rebuild and ready to be a playoff team? How would you rank the 3 teams listed in order from most likely to be a playoff team to least likely? To help, here are some useful stats from last season to look at. This will give you the team numbers and individual player stats for the season. Buffalo: https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/BUF/2023.html 91 point season Detroit: https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/DET/2023.html 80 point season Ottawa: https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/OTT/2023.html 86 point season Finally we have key additions and subtractions. Some of the key additions or subtractions happened near the trade deadline but are included because they should be. Buffalo Additions: Connor Clifton LHD, Erik Johnson RHD, Jordan Greenway LW, and Devon Levi G. Potentially Savoie, Rousek, or Kulich as additions as well with Ryan Johnson also a possibility. Buffalo Subtractions: Ilya Lyubhskin RHD, Jack Quinn IR (I am including Quinn here because he will be out until the new year most likely and might not be back up to speed until March or later, there's a very real chance he loses the entire season to this injury) Detroit Additions: Alex DeBrincat LW/RW, JT Compher C, Justin Holl RHD, Shayne Gostisbehere LHD, David Perron LW, Daniel Sprong RW, James Reimer G. Potentially Simon Edvinsson LHD and Marco Kasper C could also be added to this team. Detroit Subtractions: Pius Suter C, Dominik Kubalik LW, Filip Hronek RHD, Alex Nedeljkovic G Ottawa Additions: Dominik Kubalik LW, Jakob Chychrun LHD, Vladimir Tarasenko RW, Joonas Korpisalo G, Josh Norris C (returning from shoulder surgery which sidelined him most of last year). Ridley Greig C is also an addition after playing 20games last season. Ottawa Subtractions: Alex DeBrincat LW/RW, Derick Brassard C, Cam Talbot G I think I got most of the big moves that teams made.