LGR4GM

This team is bad. They don't have league average goaltending, defense, or scoring. The players look lost, the coaches sound lost, and the GM is MIA. The season is done, start looking at the top 10 in the draft.

Levi was bad again

Lol no.

Should probably be firing assistant coaches at least but nothing will happen. Complacency is the name of the Sabres game.

That's not what we traded for Greenway.

Screw this coaching staff for keeping Ryan Johnson a healthy scratch. Total stupidity.

The leading scorer on the team "doesn't fit"?

Seasons over actually.

I hate this team. Always stupid reasons we lose games.

That was a really stupid shot by Jokiharju. Just dumb.

He's currently centering Skinner and Tuch. And he leads the team in points.

The problem here is some think it's: Greenway OR a top 4 defender I think we need: Greenway AND a top 4 defender

You don't get it. It's not overvaluing Greenway. He's with a 2nd maybe, it's understanding that's not worth losing Greenway over. We need nhl players not more picks. We already have picks to trade, we don't need more.

Sure but what name you got. Because if we are trading a 2024 1st and Kulich, they better be really good and idk why a team would trade that type of player. Again, the only name I can come up with is Corson Ceulemans out of Columbus (who isn't worth that or that level of guy) because CBJ have 27 other RHD. Now if CBJ want to trade David Jiricek... well now you have my attention.

Yea, because Yzerman is not trading Seider. It just isn't happening. And no, we got more for Eichel (3 1sts and a 2nd). The ROR trade was garbage and should be used for the basis of nothing. Drysdale was traded yesterday so he isn't getting traded again. Which Miller? There's like 4 I can think of. None of the guys you listed Romanov, Hague, and Miller am I inclined to trade a 1st and a 2nd and a prospect for. That's my own personal taste, especially when our 2024 1st is going to be in top 10 in a very defense heavy draft. Romanov is worth a 2nd and maybe a B prospect like Polatpov or something. Hague same thing. I am going to guess Miller is K'andre Miller and that is a player I think is worth what you are suggesting.

You wanna know why I think we should use the other assets we have and not Greenway to find a top 4 defender? Because we need Greenway in our top 12 and I am sick of trading NHL players for future maybes and a 2nd round pick has about a 20% chance to be an NHL player, just a player, let alone as good as Greenway can be. We should keep Greenway and try to make the playoffs next year. Considering he isn't on the market as the OP claims in their title and it is just Vancouver writers picking guys they want, I am not concerned about this.

Why should a team with every single guy in their top 9 under 26 accept Skinner want more picks when they still have Kulich, Östlund, Savoie, and Rose, Wahlberg, Strbak, Novikov, etc... in their prospect pool, why? What in hell does ditching Greenway so we have a 2nd and a 3rd do for us? Don't say for a trade because I can use Buffalo's 2nd and 3rd round pick in 2024 right now for that without doing anything. You can literally package those picks already because we have them with Greenway for example for someone of value. Also for the love of zeus's caboose, next time you mention trading for Moritz Seider I am going to call for you to be banned, Connor McDavid is more likely to be traded than Seider. Im sorry do I see Luke Hughes now as well? Holy crap man this isn't even borderline realistic. You wanna know what a Seider trade looks like... Owen Power, Jiri Kulich, One of (Peterka/Quinn/Cozens/Benson) and a 2nd (because Yzerman loves that kid and it is their #1 defender). Hard pass. You listing "A 1st, 2nd, and a prospect is the max reasonable payout." is insane. Wookie wouldn't even suggest that for Seider, Hughes, or Bouchard. I get these are just names you are tossing out but find realistic ones. Corson Ceulemans is a realistic RFA guy you could trade a 2nd and prospect for, not Mortiz Seider. Yzerman would crawl over broken glass while on fire to keep Seider on his team. Not your bow? What about your ax?

The point of keeping greenway is to win hockey games.