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The game today is so fundamentally different then it was during Marinos time. Comparing them would be a mistake, it's like when people say Gretzky would get 150pts today, he wouldn't and it is okay.

Team or private models could get that specific. I don't think public models do but some may have a little of that. You'd have to track each player and where they score from and also where goalies get scored on. The issue is goals are rare events so there might be too much noise but that's above my understanding of stats or large data models.

Every shot taken on the ice, has a small chance to go in for a goal. Math breaks down how many shots become goals from that spot. So let's use the faceoff dot as an example, and say for every 100 shots taken from the right faceoff dot, 10 go on. That gives us 10 out of 100 or 10% or for xgf, 0.1 because 10% as a decimal is 0.1 So, when you're on the ice you get .1 for every right faceoff dot shot your team takes and .1 against for every one the opposing team takes. So if you're good and are just allowing low quality point shoots but in turn get high quality shots yourself, you'll have a here xgf or expected goals for. xGF% is your xgf / xga Note, shots have to be on net.

since Levi came up... this is basically all from that 1 game. Numbers don't really stabilize until about 15ish starts

I only saw parts of this game because, Go Dawgs. That said, Samuelsson looks awful, truly playing like butt. Ruff can't tell about accountability and not make him sit one game. Jack Quinn is really disappointing me this season. He has all the tools and the brains, but just looks lost. If he can start clicking with Kulich, he can drive that line but he needs to simplify his game.

... no Levi hasn't been better than UPL. In fact, they've been exactly the same:

Is it contagious?

I'm barely paying attention but why the F### is Samuelsson still getting ice time?

Toronto wins a cup

The underlying 5v5 metrics indicate they might be. They don't fix special teams though, it won't matter. Keep in mind, this is a rebuilding Chicago team too.

Either they fix the special teams and the underlying metrics that say they aren't trash turn out to be right or... we talk about who we are trading at the deadline and who we are picking in the top 5.

I don't agree at all and think you analogy is trash. Quinn is exceedingly well rounded.

JJ Peterka might be a burgeoning 30+ g and 70+ pt player. He may be better than Quinn.

Meanwhile...

Was thinking the same.

I miss Reinhart every day.

My God this argument is just red herring bullshittery Victor Olofsson does not make the Buffalo Sabres better. It's patently ridiculous to suggest otherwise.

Irrelevant. How does Olofsson help Buffalo? What Vegas did has no bearing. Also, what does this even mean? Are you quoting +/- and yea, I think his ***** 7g and 8a is too crappy for our bottom 6 when he brings nothing else. This is just dumb. You're arguing we should have re-signed olofsson because Vegas did.

What are you even on about? You want Olofsson on the 4th line now? This conversation is insane. You're arguing we'd be better with Olofsson... a guy who literally cannot play 5v5 nhl hockey well.

That has a mediocre 3rd line winger and they have limited capspace?