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Salary very much disclosed. Would you rather have Clifton for 3yrs at 3.33 or Dumba at 1yr for 3.9?

Finger Lakes. There is this chicken and ice cream place in Penn Yan called Seneca Farms that is really good.

Dahlin might be the grittiest defender on this team. He's very physical all over the ice and takes very little crap from anyone.

I agree with most of this. The only part I do not is the idea that UPL can be an average goalie. I have seen next to nothing to convince me he is anything but a subpar backup.

According to capfriendly, their forwards average age is 31.2 and Defense average age is 29.1 For the Sabres perspective, Forwards is 26.1 and Defense is 25.8

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Hey everyone, if you wanna be mad at adams for anything, go for it. I'm not policing you. Have at it. He's def not been perfect and could do more. But guess what, you don't need to post that in every ***** thread every time you post. So what's Adams failed out?

You're full of it. Every thread devolves into the same posters complaining about the same things. But yea... it's policing. What a joke Thorny. This thread was about the countdown to the season starting and its the same crap as every single other thread. There's no policing crap, there's just a bunch of ppl whining about the same problems everywhere repeatedly. Policing. Lol yea that's what's happening when every thread is the same and some of us note it. What a joke.

This place sucks. Every ***** thread is the same. Draft thread, season start thread, don't matter. All the same bitching.

I wonder if Bedard has a Jack Hughes like rookie season. Better than Hughes but his lack of strength will be a factor at the NHL level even with all his gifts. Not saying he won't be amazing, just that year 1 might be more mortal.

Being able to "find a way" has been the universal dismissal phrase for a lot of this. "Well they found a way so it's fine." I am not saying that is what you said, just noting that is how it is being used. I have a friend who constantly says "well I found a way" and has suggested my wife is dumb for going into education because it doesn't pay enough. Rising costs are a result of stagnant government spending on education and rising costs of colleges. It isn't just administrators. Colleges have to have all these extras to attract students, it isn't about education anymore, it is about an experience. It sucks and idk what or if there is a solution. That said not everyone should go to college. Trades are valuable and always have been and should be viewed with the same appreciation as some Bacherlor's degreed tech bro.

5.4million with RFA and defender Trent Frederic also left to sign. Up to 4,290,125 the compensation is only a 2nd round pick. I would offer Swayman that for 2 years and see what he says.

And because your nephew graduated 6 years later than he would have (unclear if this was a Bachelors but I'll assume that) he's now 6 years behind on his retirement. Something else to consider.

That closing paragraph doesn't make you sound smart. It makes you sound ignorant. I hope you don't take that poorly but you're smugly ignoring the changes between you at 52 getting a degree 25 years ago and what the cost is today compared to the average job you can get while in college.

But you fail to realize why that is. You don't have businesses lobbying congress with millions to make their bankruptcy laws beneficial. You have a desperate group of ppl who congress by and large doesn't care about because they don't have the money to lobby them.

The myth exists because the wealth gap in the world but especially the US continues to grow and accelerate. That's due to the myth that the rich invest their money creating good jobs for the ppl below them, aka trickle down economics. Corporations privatize their gains while they publicly subsidize their losses. Good jobs are gone because companies have chosen to maximize shareholders gains over paying ppl. Add into that the very easy fix of cutting loan interest or at a minimum saying once you've paid back double your original loan your done and some of this could be fixed. Wal-mart is a great example. Most of their workforce is on government assistance because they have decided to pay as little as possible and have the government subsidize their employees. But that's not what ppl are told, they are told companies are struggling and it's not true. They report record profits year after year because they've decided that investing in the workers is not of interest. And here we are. Wage growth has stagnated while the cost of living has increased. Employers yell about qualified ppl but won't pay them or train them. The only fields I know that are exceptions are trades where there's been such a labor shortage they have to pay ppl. Lots of interesting dynamics at play.

I'd still offer sheet Swayman.

Had to be Benson.

Ottawa did a thing

I think most of this is exceedingly wrong. Trading 22 year old Cozens for 22 year old Coyles is nuts. Coyle best season 56pts and 21g. He did one at 24 and one at 23. Cozens best to date is 31g and 68pts at age 22. Mittelstadt is better than Debrusk. JJP will be better than JVR this year.

I think Krebs will be better than Geekie. Just can't give it to him until we see it.

Lines were pulled from LineCombos and idk how close Boston's are to reality but that is what I used. Buffalo had one edit done by me. Mitts went to Oloffson's spot and Olofsson slid to line 3. If you want to come in and complain because I did the lines wrong, have fun. I used what I had available. Forwards JEFF SKINNER - TAGE THOMPSON - ALEX TUCH /// BRAD MARCHAND - PAVEL ZACHA - DAVID PASTRNAK - Skinner is a step below Marchand but still a very good agitation winger. Edge to Boston. Thompson is better than Zacha, straight up better. Zacha might be better defensively but the sheer volume of Tage's scoring covers that. Pasta is better than Tuch, although I don't think Tuch has peaked. Overall, I think Boston's top line even with Zacha remains a point above. This gap is a lot closer without Bergeron. JOHN JASON PETERKA - DYLAN COZENS - CASEY MITTELSTADT /// JAMES VAN RIEMSDYK - CHARLIE COYLE - JAKE DEBRUSK I think JJP will be better than JVR but at this point I would call it a draw. Again, I think JJP will be better and he has the potential to be better while JVR is declining. Cozens is better than Coyle. Coyle had slightly better defensive metrics but offensively Cozens is simply better. Again we have a case of a 31yr old versus a 22yr old and I will bet Cozens is better and Coyle declines. Advantage Buffalo. Debrusk v Mitts really comes down to which Mitts we get. Is it the 2nd half of the season Mitts, then I lean Mitts. Being with a shooter like Cozens and JJP, I think Mitts would excel versus Debrusk being with Coyle instead of Krejci is a decline. Conclusion is that Buffalo's 2nd line will be better than Boston's. JORDAN GREENWAY - PEYTON KREBS - VICTOR OLOFSSON /// A.J. GREER - MORGAN GEEKIE - TRENT FREDERIC Greenway wasn't great but he's better than Greer. I could put Lucic here I suppose but I get the same outcome. Greenway is better but how much is debatable. Krebs v Geekie... idk but I suppose I must lean Geekie for now. I don't think he is special and Krebs grow a lot in his sophomore year. Geekie edges him out for now. Frederick is better than Olofsson on paper. So I give him the edge. That means in the end this is either an edge to Boston or if Krebs is slightly better a draw ZEMGUS GIRGENSONS - TYSON JOST - KYLE OKPOSO /// MILAN LUCIC - PATRICK BROWN - OSKAR STEEN Lucic is slow as crap. I am giving the edge to Zemgus here who at least can still get up and down the ice even with his rock hands. I think Jost can be better than Brown and I would expect him to be. If Krebs somehow ended up in this spot I 100% think krebs is better. Steen v Okposo... Well Steen could be good but I gotta trust Okposo here and I would trust Rousek over Steen too. I think our 4th line just offers more than Bostons. Offensively I think the 1st lines and 3rd lines are close. I think our 2nd line will be far better than Bostons and our 4th line will be better. Overall, the age and growth potential is better for Buffalo and they aren't adding in a bunch of newbies they hope gain instant chemistry. I think Buffalo will manage to out offense Boston. Defense MATTIAS SAMUELSSON - RASMUS DAHLIN /// MATT GRZELCYK - CHARLIE MCAVOY Grzelcyk is better than Muel. Sorry but it is true, they play differently but Boston has the edge there and I am unsure if Muel is good enough to close that gap. Now that brings us to McAvoy v. Dahlin. Dahlin smokes him offensively and I will say right now that Dahlin has not hit his offensive peak. McAvoy edged Dahlin defensively although that gap has narrowed significantly in the last year. I know some will flip out but the edge goes to Dahlin. He is just too Dynamic on offense and even though the Krueger Dahlin is still stuck in everyone from fans to voters brains, he is dam good defensively as well. McAvoy though is only a hair below here so overall the first pair goes to Boston. OWEN POWER - CONNOR CLIFTON /// HAMPUS LINDHOLM - BRANDON CARLO Power will be better than Lindholm. There I said it. However right now the edge goes to Lindholm and might for a full nother season. Power could have a major glow up though and catch him but for now Lindholm is a full step above. Carlo v Clifton is different. I think Clifton will be better in an elevated role with Power and I have stated that regularly. I think Carlo is good though and so I am giving this a tie. I think Clifton is going to click with Power and it will be good. Carlo is better defensively so again it is the offense v defense thing again so I will call it a tie. That means that pairing 2 goes to Boston as well at least for 1 more year. I think Power will surpass things. ILYA LYUBUSHKIN - ERIK JOHNSON /// DEREK FORBORT - KEVIN SHATTENKIRK Lyubshkin or Joker, I think both are better than Forbort. It just isn't that close to me but maybe I just haven't watched Forbort enough. Shattenkirk hasn't been very good for a couple of years but also Anaheim sucks. Johnson was bad last year but pretty good before that. Hmm what do I do here? I will call it a tie for now but I as always have more faith in Buffalo than out. Either way, I would give the 3rd pair to Buffalo with a slight edge. Boston's defense is really solid even with their losses. That top pair is pretty good even though I think Dahlin will surpass McAvoy if he has not already (I think he did) and we gotta hope that Muel will continue to improve. The 2nd pair I think all comes down to what Owen Power will be this year and that's a tough question. I think our 2nd pair is a notch below Bostons as we sit here in summer. Our 3rd pair IMPO is better. I also feel better about the depth on our 3rd pair. Conclusion: Buffalo's forward core is deeper and more talented. I do agree with Granato that offense is harder than defense. I think because of the loss of 2 of their top 6, Boston will have issues throughout the year compensating. Buffalo on the other hand will only get stronger offensively as the year goes on. Kulich and Quinn are only going to get closer to Buffalo. Once April hits, Benson, Savoie, maybe Östlund become options if injuries appear. There is just so much talent coming and Boston really can't say the same. Defensively Boston is ahead and it might last for a couple of years. I think Novikov and Power are the wild cards. If they both elevate their games by next year Buffalo can be better on defense. This year though, I think Boston is better but it is closer with the loss of Orlov and Clifton and the additions of year 2 power and Clifton. All in all I think Buffalo has more potential this year to be better than Boston. Boston though is a veteran team so they know how to win and have a good defense and goaltending tandem. In the end, I might lean towards Boston as being better but think the gap is far closer now than it was last year. Depends on how much regression occurs in Buffalo's scoring versus how much growth from the young guns we get compared to how quickly Boston comes together and if they can somehow not fall off the age cliff. I guess we shall see but I don't view Boston as the juggernaut they were. They remind me a lot of 2007 Buffalo Sabres where Briere and Drury left and the bottom dropped.

Forward BRAD MARCHAND PAVEL ZACHA DAVID PASTRNAK JAMES VAN RIEMSDYK CHARLIE COYLE JAKE DEBRUSK A.J. GREER MORGAN GEEKIE TRENT FREDERIC MILAN LUCIC PATRICK BROWN OSKAR STEEN Defense MATT GRZELCYK CHARLIE MCAVOY HAMPUS LINDHOLM BRANDON CARLO DEREK FORBORT KEVIN SHATTENKIRK