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I mean Helenius is all of this but 10lbs short of your goal at only 18, most 18yr old players are not over 200lbs. Wahlberg is 194lbs and turning 19 so he's got a chance to crack that 200lb threshold this season. Ziemer is 196lbs, so he is also close to the 200lb threshold. sigh... not accurate

Rogue One is the last good Star Wars film IMPO. I don't have the hatred of TLJ as some do, but Luke in that does suck. I thought some of it was interesting but the overall plot is weak and it just felt like a rushed film. Again, don't hate it, it isn't whatever the F the final movie was bad.

Lafrienere is the perfect example. Struggled struggled struggles... hit 22 and boom. 23/24 is the Average and that doesn't mean everyone isn't good until 23/24. As Taro notes, some of it is games played IE experience. A bunch of the players listed here are top 3 picks and they can all be excluded because by definition they are outliers. If you feel better using some other metric you can use IN THE 3RD NHL SEASON, as that is usually when things occur and that also corresponds for most players as 23/24. My point is the same though, most players take several NHL seasons (2-3) before they hit their stride. Benson is actually going to be a fun example because everyone writes him on the 3rd line and he seems an after-thought but the guy had almost the same 5v5 scoring as Bedard, I can't imagine what he is at 22 with 4 NHL seasons under his belt. In the end, yes some players are 21 or 22 or 23 or 24 but roughly speaking players enter their prime when they are 23/24 and continue in that until about 29 (again some players go on past that like Joe Pavelski who basically spent 15 years being awesome). Don't take an average and apply it to everyone is the moral here but the OG point stands. We don't have a bunch of young guys entering their primes, yet. It is why I wanted Skinner retained for 1 more season. 21 yr old Kulich, Savoie, Östlund and 22yr old Rosen and 19yr old Helenius are very intriguing, especially if all of them played in the AHL together one more year. Now I think at least 1 if not 2 are forced into the lineup and I am not convinced they are ready. At the very least they are not Stutzle at 22 ready. Remember Jack Quinn put up 37 points in 75 games as a Rookie NHL player, do we really expect Kulich, Savoie, Helenius, Rosen, or Östlund to outdo that? Benson dropped 30. If we plug any of those guys in we should expect 30 but not more.

I don't remember this at all. In fact I remember the opposite. Savoie and Kulich were 19 last year, jjp and Quinn were 21 in their first NHL season. NHL players on average become good around 23/24 so the good news is Quinn and Peterka are there but Savioe, Benson, Kulich, Helenius are several years away still. On good teams that's fine because you have a guy who is 26 and will give you another 7 years of good play. On Buffalo we have to hope Cozens rebounds. It's why everyone complaining about Dickinson confuses me. Dahlin and Power are going to lock down d1 and d2 and pp1 and pp2 for another 8 years at least, you might be able to spend 5 years now developing one of the 7 defenders from the last 2 drafts into a replacement but you have years to do it.

This is true. We're in part 2 of the offseason where teams who got UFA's look to see who they need to move or augment their roster. Trades happen this week and then it all goes dark until September.

Actually with Helenius around I think I prefer Savoie at wing. Really excited to see both in the prospects challenge.

Zach Benson is a winger. Kulich could be a center at the nhl level, idk about this year though. Savoie could make the NHL this year, that's true, he played center last year in Jr's but idk if he's projecting there in the NHL. There's plenty of room in Rochester for Helenius and Kulich to play center.

Zach Benson is a winger.

I think the pp will be key. They need Benson on pp2. I still think they are short a player.

What are the Sabres trying to build?

And if anyone in that top 6 gets injured? There's no depth behind Tage, Tuch, Cozens, Quinn, Peterka, Benson.

Stop. Ralph Krueger was an abomination and that almost entirely explains the offense in 2020. The year after they had more talent.

Maybe they'll get Adam Henrique

I voted no to both. Now what?

This isn't a playoff team and Kevyn Adams to this point in the offseason is negligent.

Probably had no term

He just lost? He's basically still making 9 million this year.

I'd send him to Rochester if possible. No reason to leave him in Liiga any longer when he needs to learn NA pace.

Smart guy

Here's the truth, the Sabres are on phase 2 of the offseason already. See who signed what and who needs to move a guy. They are looking for a trade but considering Adams has never brought in a top 6 player since the Eichel trade, I'm not holding my breath.

Condescend more.