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It did. NHL teams over value the world's a bit. Again, I don't have issues with Power. I like him, he's gonna be a solid #2 guy and if he adds about 25% physicality that will be fine.

@JohnC I find it pretty disingenuous for you to use the terms "dominant" and "elite" for his college play and then accuse me of red herring when I said "talk about him like a super star" considering elite and Dominant is how you'd talk about a super star. So the bottom line here is your red herring comment is bull hockey. Owen Power wasn't Dominant or elite in college. He was good. Ftr, I like Owen Power a lot. He's a good hockey player.

Zach Benson is better Seth Jarvis. Remember that.

First, I used the language you and other did. Elite and Dominant, which is incorrect. I'll prove you said that below. Second, he shouldn't have been the consensus #1 and I vehemently argued against that with data in his draft year. So far, it is starting to come to fruition that he was indeed not the best player in his class. We'll see if that changes. Third, there is no red herring. You just want to dismiss my argument without any type of proof. It's an old trick, but it gets used a lot. You used the term "elite player in college" which is not accurate. He was a good, not elite player in college. Here's 2 references. First it implies he'll be a star, second he's called dominant in college, which he wasn't. Final nitpick, you claim "He was an elite player in college in his short stint there" but Owen Power played 59 games over 2 years. That's not really that short and while his 2nd year was very good, he was not dominant or elite. Rasmus Dahlin is elite, Power is a level below that. I really hope he grows up and becomes dominant but so far, he's the nhl version of his college self; a steady positional defender with little physicality who uses his length to take away space and uses his passing for good outlet passes. He's a solid #3 right now and can become a 40pt+ #2 defender. My issue is that's not how he's being described.

Jack Quinn will be a better player than Dylan Cozens this year. Quinn isn't dependent on Cozens. You have that backwards.

Owen Power was not a dominant or elite player in college. He was very good, yes. But y'all are talking about him like he was some super star, he wasn't. He was a good defender with good production.

Puckpedia has the contract listed at 7.5 million per season to 2032

NHL teams don't understand the position in terms of drafting. They look for 6'4" + guys and then use the eye test to draft the "best" one.

EP loves Leenders and basically called him the steel of the draft.

this is the model for Quinn and Jjp and Benson.

Tried to say what he was at draft time and was ridiculed and told I was wrong etc... Owen Power is almost exactly the player I thought. He's a solid #2/3 defender and shouldn't have been the 1st overall pick. Really hope he takes a big step this year and proves me wrong.

I haven't honestly seen enough of Wahlberg. I think he has been a bit overhyped.

"Skates good for his size" = "Straight line fast and doesn't trip over their own feet"

Pronman doesn't believe in small players at any position. It is why Benson will be downgraded by him forever and why Levi will too. Pronman would rank a 6'5" talentless booger that had below average skating but could skate fast in a straight line higher than any sub 6' forward with elite skills but average skating. He's so size bias it is getting ridiculous.

EP puts Buffalo at #16 for prospect pools but they graduated out Benson and Levi. Owen Power is also not listed because they are only looking at prospects and not what pronman did which is U23. https://eprinkside.com/2024/08/28/ep-rinkside-2024-nhl-prospect-pool-rankings-no-16-ranked-buffalo-sabres Helenius Kulich Östlund Rosen Kleber Leenders (Levi is not eligible for this list BTW) Ziemer McCarthy Komarov Neuchev Strbak Osburn Wahlberg Novikov Ratzlaff Marjala Leinonen (I am shocked. Shocked! Well not that shocked) Poltapov

It is a comparison of Östlund v. Helenius' seasons

I trust EPs take on Benson far more than Pronman. As for Helenius, I actually think there's a chance he's better on NA ice after an adjustment period. His issue at first will be pace, Liiga is slower in how they attack. Östlund is very interesting because his biggest issue is weight/ strength so his camp weigh is will be watched. Novikov needs better feet and he's got a real chance of being a shutdown NHL defender. As for Levi, my biggest issue is Pronman questions his skating which Biron has raved about. Idk what his ceiling is but he's got the potential to be Saros. I hope he sees about 35 or so AHL games and about 25 NHL games this year. Next year they can do a 48/34 split or so between upl and Levi.

I would guess that they are something in-between last year and 2022. It is why we sit so precariously on the bubble. To quote another movie, "sometimes people deserve to have their faith rewarded."

Couple times a year. Probably at Helinka, WJC18, WJC20, and Worlds