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Word starting to circulate online is that Rammstein’s front man is in ICU with the COVID 19 virus.

This is the same kind of thought process that brought us 8 years with no .22 ammo on store shelves because folks whipped themselves into an unjustified frenzy that Obama was going to take their guns.

When they legislate away freedom of association like they legislated away due process and probable cause I'll be standing right there with you. Emergency powers aren't even being utilized by our federal government.

Yeah, I’m sure the next time the government wants to encroach on our rights they’ll make the restaurants sell takeout again.

I need to shop at this grocery store. Do they sell booze too?

Freedom does require actually living. I think most folks are smart enough to understand that willingly giving some things up temporarily is necessity to preserve freedoms once this thing passes/

Worst case projections are ranging from 1.1 to 2.2M deaths, assuming minimal mitigation. What gets us to the well below 1M range is what we are doing today. So yes, it is a choice between financial and physical health. And there is still no reason you've mentioned as to why we wouldn't want to mitigate the outcomes of the resulting financial downturn that doesn't include "we don't want to pay for it". Frankly, I don't buy your thought that those efforts lack effectiveness when what they've really lacked in the past is the high level wherewithal to put serious efforts into it.

Numbers of deaths in the millions absolutely are the projections being made if we cannot flatten the curve. I’m honestly surprised you haven’t come across these numbers.

And you think that these societal consequences would be less after the loss of several million of our friends, children, spouses, and siblings?

And these also would require action to mitigate. What other reason would we choose not to do this other than it would cost us more money?

Cost benefit when the costs on one side is lives lost and the other side is economic health. Or prioritizing monetary health over physical health. The roots in that certainly lie in greed.

Sad truth. Too many people are prioritizing money over people. It’s been that way as long as trade has been around.

If there are any Alton Brown fans out there, he’s posted a couple of live streams on his Youtube channel of him cooking dinner with his wife while they are locked down. If you enjoy his weirdness, they are damned funny. I’m pretty sure he’s rather drunk in the first one. My wife and I had quite a few belly laughs watching them.

Then we both need one. My outlook is cynical.

Based on what’s happened in China and Italy, i think a shutdown limited to 15 days will cost lives. When Grandma and Grandpa start dropping things will get pretty angry.

Still have the poster every fan in attendance received for that game. It’s on my office wall at home. Lower blues, right behind the net Hartford defended twice. Brings a tear to my eye.

My dream existence.

Ie. the deep state?

Schoeny, then Miro.

Leadership certainly does set the agenda. It happens in every organization. If it isn’t Trump setting agenda for CDC, than his appointee sure is. And if the head of the CDC isn’t setting agenda and priorities why would Trump bother to replace these people when he came into office? (rhetorical) It makes no sense whatsoever to separate Trumps appointments from responsibility for their subsequent performance. And the idea that they were hamstrung by rules made under previous administrations doesn’t hold water either. This is a Presidency well into its 3rd year, not a new President, and they had several months warning of what was coming to change the agenda and priorities of the CDC. And we know our government was aware of the potential because several members made sure they profited from it. The actions of the Chinese govt sure got us to the point of pandemic. But the actions of this government ended up eerily similar to the Chinese govt actions.

The head of the Executive Branch sets policy and sets tone. We all know the tone that has been set in the press conferences to date. Until this week they've not set a tone indicative that science has been a priority.

The CDC is headed by a Trump appointee with a background including an HIV trial so botched he was investigated criminally for it. The failure's of the CDC are Trump failures, pure and simple.

Love me some Mike Peca, but 5 seasons, once over 50pts in a season. Pommer's 1st stint was 7.5 seasons with points ranging from 30-80. Peca's offensive game is overrated by Sabres fans. He wasn't Don Luce. Not that it matters. Gil wins P anyway.

Asymptomatic, no known contact. Do we test them weekly? Daily? Let's bathe them in tests.