Hank

Me too. Irwin, if you would like to continue this discussion PM me

First: Point of my first post was that the further we get from 9/11 the less people care. Feel free to search Memorial Day threads of years past and prove me wrong. Second: this place may have started out as a hockey forum, but so much more is discussed. Many of the more popular threads have nothing to do with hockey. Referring to this place as a hockey forum is an insult to the message board community this place has evolved into. Third: I re-read my second post. I stand by it. Snark justified. Disagree if you wish, zero given.

So you feel it important enough to drop in and clarify for everyone that this day is ONLY for those who have fallen, in a thread created to show appreciation for those who have fallen, yet fail to show appreciation for those who have fallen. If this thread was for a 4th line winger from the 80's I'm sure your warmest condolences would have went out to his friends and family. I knew I could count on Aud and you to prove my point, stay classy gentlemen...

Silly Neo, didn't you get the memo? Appreciation towards those who've served is so 2010. It's not like they're obscure 4th line journeymen, of course if they were we'd have three pages filled. But we're not talking about obscure 4th line journeymen, just those who've served their country, and the sad truth is we're too far removed from 9/11 for most people to give a sh!t. As a retired Soldier, thank you for your sincere appreciation.

You both seem to have your issues/demons under control. Congratulations. Very impressive. And very admirable.

Very funny. As a Sabres fan and US citizen I laughed out loud. As a Pagula worshipper and semi-supporter of Trump, YOU!!! Well done...

Agreed. If they're able to get a downtown arena they may become Nashville west.

At 20 it would have broken me too, and that sucks for your hypothetical father. But what about the hypothetical accountant who works 60 hours a week and wants to take his two boys but cant buy a ticket because the draft is free and 15,000 Torontonians camped out to get first come first served seating. Does it not suck for him too? It's not about money. I didn't always have money. from 02-04 I lived in the N 15th St projects in Olean and worked at Friendly's as a manager in training. I didnt make dick. And before that I was a single parent in the Army. Even as a Non-Commissioned Officer back then I received food stamps. Prior to Bush the Armed Forces were grossly underpaid. It's because, if I remember correctly, you're college age. When I was college age I was loud, obnoxious, drank too much and my body produced a large amount of testosterone. I'm in my mid 40's now. I'm quiet, reserved, don't drink to get drunk, and most importantly, my body produces about 1/4 the testosterone. What's the most likely demographic to be at a sporting event and have minimal income? college aged young men. If $30 helps ensure I sit next to someone who's more my age and maturity level than a college kid, I'm all for it. I'm viewing this from the point of a business because tha'ts what it is, a business, and I'm mature enough not to let my emotions get in the way of that fact. If the draft was free than fans who have jobs wouldn't be able to go because they have to work and can't camp out for tickets. You like the sound of the Toronto Bills? How about the Quebec Sabres? Yeah, for ensuring my beloved sports teams stay in the community, and for all the good he's done in the community, he gets a free pass on thirty ###### dollars! The draft sucks. At least live it does. Only people that would go are die hards, and guess what? They have us! We aren't going anywhere. And like it or not, Toronto IS local. And with the #1 pick, that building will be full of leafs fans regardless of price.

Potato summed up the crime situation pretty well. For the most part it happens where you would expect it to. Do be where you shouldn't at times you shouldn't be there and you shouldn't have any issues. One thing I really like about living here is most of the neighborhoods are in subdivisions with cute names like "the hunt club" or "Quakers run" and so on. There's only one or two ways in so there's no through traffic. If you are in there its because you live there or are visiting someone who lives there. Otherwise you don't belong there and you'll stick out. Unless you're a social recluse you'll get to know your neighbors and hopefully make some good friends. Another thing I like is all the homes in the subdivision are similarly priced, so everyone should be on the same financial/social scale. Are you looking to rent or buy? If you can give us an idea of what you expect your household income to be some of us could probably recommend neighborhoods for you to look. We don't have fleas down here, we have tics. Not sure if that's better or worse, but that's what we have.

Yes, I know it. It's no Broadway, but it don't suck.

You answered your own question as well as I could have. It's that simple. Buffalo fans care that much about hockey that they'll pay the price. It's $30. Who gives a . If that's going to break you, maybe you shouldn't be there. If that $30 is enough to keep you out, I'm happy, you're probably not someone I want sitting next to me.

Why is it bush league for a business to make money? Why do you(the collective you, not you specifically) feel entitled?

I work in Hendersonville and live down the road in Clarksville. If you have friends in the area I would imagine there isn't a whole lot you can get from us that you can't get from them... I'm familiar with the builders and framing crews in the middle Tennessee area. As with anything, some are better than others. A common practice is to inflate the lumber estimate, have the lumber company pick up the excess lumber for a credit but not pass that credit onto the customer. The difference often reaches five figures. Most framing crews are made up of illegal immigrants, if having an American crew is important to you there are very few of them. If you plan on having a home built I can advise you. Lacrosse is not big here, if one of your kids play let me know when you get settled and I can put you in touch with a coach in your area. Same with rugby. The best aquarium I've ever been to is in Newport, KY, just south of Cincinatti, 4-4 1/2 hours away depending on where you settle. Definitely a must for the kids. Tornadoes are not an issue where we are. I've lived here since 04 and I think I've heard the siren go off three times with nothing actually touching down. Of course I was deployed to other parts of the world about half the time so that may not be completely accurate. I'll check with the wife but I would think if a tornado hit the area while I was gone she would have told me. Preds season tix are insanely cheap. If you decide you're interested I get 25% off. If you want to split a season or a half season I can help pair you with someone. Many lakes around here. You can swim seven months out of the year and boat 9-10 months. If you don't have a boat, get one. Day one - get season passes to Nashville Shores. Many great places for brunch, my favorite is Stoney River. Nashville has a great night life and great food.

I agree with everything you said. Glad to see you're finally coming around.

There are at least six candidates whom I would have rather seen get the republican nomination over Trump. I hate Clinton so much that if there are only two options I will vote for Trump. If there is a third option, almost ANY third option, I will most likely vote for them. I think there are a lot of people like me out there and if Sanders ran as an independent he might have a shot.

I'm tending to a sick granddaughter while on vacation and I'm bored out of my mind. I'm just trying to find ways to pass time while Nick Jr. Slowly puts me into a coma.

I'm not trying to dispute it. Or debate with you, I agree with you. I'm just saying that guy is not neutral, he's nowhere close to neutral.

Entertaining, but he's not exactly neutral.

I'm not wrong about anything, I stated that the quote was stolen from another site. At no time did I attempt to pass those ideas off as my own. That being said, it is a fact that some states (Most?) require some form of photo ID to apply for government assistance. So it's logical that if you receive assistance in those states you should already have an ID. Look, I'm not a republican. I've seen many examples on here of republicans setting up hurdles to voting, and I believe everyone of them. I also think maybe too much is being made out of needing an ID card.

Stolen from a site I'm too lazy to give credit to, but the points may be valid.... "The fact of the matter is that you need valid photo identification to establish your identity in order to qualify for government programs as well. The exact government programs that are designed to help the poor require photo IDs. Of course this makes sense because the administrators of these programs want to eliminate fraud. Poor people have IDs just like the rest of us, even the poorest of the poor. To maintain these people do not does not withstand scrutiny because otherwise they would not be eligible to qualify for the programs the left surely wants them qualified for and dependant upon. There is no malicious purpose for asking a person to show an ID and prove their identity prior to voting. To prove that their is no malicious intent, states like Georgia have enacted programs for free identification cards. This entire argument against providing an ID to vote is nonsensical. The government enacts social welfare programs that are intended for the poorest citizens yet they are required to establish identity prior to receiving the benefits. If the poorest people really could not acquire an ID because they did not have the means to, that would mean they would starve on the streets because they could not qualify for government assistance. Obvioulsy this is not the case. Nor is it the case that people cannot provide an ID to vote. All of this posturing is nothing more than a thinly veiled cover for groups who actually do perpetrate voter fraud like the good gentleman from Mississippi who is now spending 10 years in prison."

Anyone know if some form of photo ID is required to apply for food stamps? Medicaid? Welfare?

That probably makes the most sense. But I would think the number of legal residents that can't obtain legal photo ID would be insignificant to the point that republicans wouldn't push for it so hard and it wouldn't piss off democrats so much. I don't understand it from either side.

I'm cooped up on vacation taking care of a sick granddaughter and I'm bored out of my mind watching paw patrol and bubble guppies. I've also posted more today than I probably have in years. Coincidence?

Yes, a constitutional right. Do illegal immigrants have a constitutional right to vote. Is the reason for showing photo ID at polling booths to establish American citizenship? Fair point. I wish I had a better argument but I don't. But I still think there's an argument there to be had, even if I'm not intelligent enough to articulate it.

Sure. And at 45 I usually don't either. Once in awhile a cashier will ask for it and have right to refuse to sell it to me if I don't produce it. Wether or not a cashier is able to guess our age appropriateness and exercise some common sense, they are legally required to ask for photo ID and confirm the ID belongs to the person they are selling to. Do you know of people who are being denied the right to obtain a legal photo ID? I do not.