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The results, well not results... The teams are set for Mom's Basement Stakes for 2022. If you want to see this history of MBS, Oh, I'll be run out of this place for telling that joke. If you want to see the history of Mom's... https://forums.hfboards.com/threads/2020-moms-basement-stakes.2769630/ Sorry about the delay. I screwed up and tried to draft an overager who was already drafted, I shouldn't try to select players after drinking hours have begun. Other than that, I wasn't too bothered by how my picks fell. Some years, it just doesn't work out, but for me, this year was ok. Many drafted Kemell at 9, and Lindgren at 106. A lot of contestants got Lambert, often at 28. Sabres #9 Matthew Savoie (F) #16 Noah Östlund (F) #28 Jiri Kulich (F) #41 Topias Leinonen (G) #74 Viktor Neuchev (F) #106 Mats Lindgren (D) #134 Vsevolod Komarov (D) #170 Jake Richard (F) #187 Gustav Karlsson (F) #202 Joel Ratkovic Berndtsson (F) #211 Linus Sjödin (F) McKenzie #9 Joakim Kemell #16 Danila Yurov #28 Brad Lambert #41 Luca Del Bel Belluz #74 Danil Zhilkin #106 Mats Lindgren #134 Josh Filmon #170 Spencer Sova #187 Jace Weir #202 --- #211 --- Button #9 Joakim Kemell #16 Jimmy Snuggerud #28 Jagger Firkus #41 Luca Del Bel Belluz #74 Danny Zhilkin #106 Mats Lindgren #134 Brennan Ali #170 Brandon Lisowsky #187 Kyle Jackson #202 Mathew Ward #211 Daniil Ivanov Pronman #9 Joakim Kemell #16 Danila Yurov #28 Brad Lambert #41 Lane Hutson #74 Danny Zhilkin #106 Mats Lindgren #134 Miguël Tourigny #170 Connor McClennon #187 Daniil Ivanov #202 Jace Weir #211 Semyon Demidov Wheeler #9 Joakim Kemell #16 Brad Lambert #28 Isacc Howard #41 Lane Hutson #74 Jordan Dumais #106 Mats Lindgren #134 Jack Devine #170 Markus Vidicek #187 Antonin Verreault #202 Oskar Asplund #211 Tyler Duke @LGR4GM #9 Frank Nazar #16 Liam Öhgren #28 Owen Beck #41 Gleb Trikozov #74 Daniil Zhilkin #106 Michael La Starza #134 Beau Jelsma #170 Pano Fimis #187 Logan Morrison #202 Alex Sotek #211 Hudson Thornton 42 Jerks #9 Matthew Savoie #16 Jiri Kulich #28 Tristan Luneau #41 Matyas Sapovaliv #74 Tomas Hamara #106 Otto Salin #134 Jake Furlong #170 Fabian Wagner #187 Marcus Vidicek #202 Jere Lasilla #211 Alexis Gendron rakish #9 Jonathan Lekkerimaki #16 Liam Ohgren #28 Brad Lambert #41 David Goyette #74 Matthew Seminoff #106 Connor Kurth #134 James Stefan #170 Wasted pick Anton Johansson #187 Matias Rantonen #202 Otto Hokkanen #211 German Tochilkin

Look through the history: hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/2020-moms-basement-stakes.2769630/ The most extreme is 2016, Bob's results vs. Pronman. I haven't valued everyone in years, so the valuation is old, but as you can see, Pronman drafted half a team, and McKenzie, unless I'm wrong, got almost zero. Pronman: Debrincat(6),Bratt(7),Nylander(12),Aho the Swede(17),Burke(32)*,Mete(38)*,Sokolov(49),David Quenneville(47,65),Somppi(84) McKenzie: Nylander(12),Libor Hajek(16),Bitten(82),Getttinger(51),Kopacka(72) Pronman's results are good, Wheeler is good, @LGR4GMis good, Bob isn't, and yet, every year people get excited by Bob's list, fortunately no one quotes Central Scouting anymore.

Last call on Mom's Basement Stakes. It's an interesting year, I didn't spend much time on it, and like @LGR4GM, I fully expect my results to be embarrassing in 5 years. One of the things I've learned doing this is to be aware of the consensus. If Lekkermakki goes before 9, I'll take Ohgren at 9 who liger will take at 16, which kills me because now my 16 needs to outplay his 9 in the future, therefore I need to update. I'll put Kasper after Lekkermakki. I'll update over at HF boards. I started doing this 9 years ago because I wanted to demonstrate that consensus scouting lists (at the time Central Scouting, but now Bob's list) had really poor results. Last year I didn't even use Bob's list because he's not competitive. Trying to bring evidence to my argument hasn't helped, I've stopped arguing. I think the importance of the draft is overstated. The Sabres were bad, I'm told they got kicked by Ottawa one night, someone said something, and suddenly they were good. Their talent didn't change that day, their drafting didn't change, but their mental approach did, and that's what good coaching does. They'll be good for 10 years here, I'm not sure they'll win a cup, their top line talent will be a bit short because their drafting sucks, but they'll be good. Still, put together a list, we'll look at it in 5 years.

page 73, end of the post, it's just a draft list rather than a full list. Anyone that pick224 doesn't cover I don't have on the list. The 9-16-28 will likely be Lekkermaki-Ohgren-maybe Bichell, hard to guess

I'm in rural Virginia, so I can't make it. Thanks for the thought though

The excitement builds for Year 9 of Mom's Basement Stakes. Get your picks in, the stakes are really small. If you are new here, which I don't think is true for anyone, I take a purely mathematical approach to the draft, comparing my results to the usual suspects, the previous years can be found over at hfboards. https://hfboards.mandatory.com/tads/2020-moms-basement-stakes.2769630/ First we'll look at year 8. It's obviously early in the competition, so there's no judgements here. I no longer value all the players because it's too time consuming, so I only valued the players that were selected in Mom's last season, plus a couple, because I just had to see. A handful of players didn't get valued because they are in a league that pick 224 doesn't cover, like the VHL. *** means he hasn't be drafted. Goaltenders? Who knows? The number is a valuation based on scoring in context. Forwards 1 Aatu Räty Liiga 1079 2 Matthew Beniers NCAA 777 3 William Eklund SHL 756 4 Joshua Roy QMJHL 671 5 Logan Stankoven WHL 642 6 Chaz Lucius NCAA 624 7 Matvei Petrov OHL 620 8 Dylan Guenther WHL 612 9 Mikey Milne*** WHL 585 10 Francesco Arcuri OHL 581 11 Ty Voit OHL 538 12 Niko Huuhtanen WHL 504 13 James Stefan *** WHL 476 14 Connor Kurth *** USHL 471 15 Sasha Pastujov OHL 454 16 Riley Kidney QMJHL 444 17 Eric Alarie*** WHL 424 18 Conner Roulette WHL 416 19 Jeremy Wilmer*** USHL 386 20 Collin Graf *** NCAA 376 21 Tyson Kozak WHL 357 22 Kent Johnson USHL 334 23 Justin Robidas QMJHL 328 24 Trevor Wong overager*** WHL 324 25 Dylan Duke NCAA 315 26 Olivier Nadeau QMJHL 314 27 Sean Tschigerl WHL 313 28 Peter Reynolds *** QMJHL 312 29 James Malatesta USHL 312 30 Alexander Kisakov MHL 301 31 Connor Lockhart OHL 293 32 Hunter Strand*** NCAA 274 33 Robert Orr QMJHL 267 34 Joshua Bloom OHL 266 35 Simon Robertsson SuperElit 251 36 William von Barnekow SuperElit 250 37 Jack O!Brien WHL 248 38 Stiven Sardaryan USHL 247 39 Isak Rosén SHL 208 40 Viljami Marjala QMJHL 182 41 Elias Stenman overage*** SuperElit 176 42 Lorenzo Canonica overage*** QMJHL 165 43 Prokhor Poltapov MHL 157 44 William Strömgren SuperElit 157 45 Daniil Lazutin overage*** MHL 152 46 Zack Stringer WHL 152 47 Dmitri Zugan*** MHL 145 Defensemen 1 Owen Power NCAA 673 2 Luke Hughes USHL 619 3 Ty Gallagher NCAA 336 4 Olen Zellweger WHL 324 5 Guillaume Richard NCAA 299 6 Carson Lambos WHL 291 7 Sean Behrens NCAA 279 8 Bogdans Hodass *** USHL 191 9 Jack Peart NCAA 138 10 Anton Olsson SHL 116 11 Aidan Hreschuk NCAA 106 12 Simon Motew *** OHL 96 13 Kalle Ervasti U20 SM-sarja 83 14 Vladislav Lukashevich MHL 16 After our first year, FC Hockey looks to be out in the lead. #1 Owen Power, #14 Jesper Wallstedt, #33 Aatu Raty, #53 Simon Robertsson (F) #88 Dylan Duke (F), #95 Ty Voit (F), #97 Vladislav Lukashevich (D), #159 Matvei Petrov (F) #161 Connor Lockhart (F), #188 Dmitri Katelevsky, #193 Trevor Wong (not drafted) A very close second place we'll give to HF Boards own 42jerks, or maybe Liger 42jerks #1 Owen Power, #14 Jack Peart, #33 Aatu Raty, #53 Sasha Pastujov #88 Aidan Hreschuk (D), #95 Conner Roulette (F), #97 Guillaume Richard (D), #159 Kelle Ervasti (not drafted) #161 Francesco Arcuri (F), #188 Eric Alarie (not drafted), #193 Zack Stringer A very close third is Sabrespace's own Liger. #1 William Eklund, #14 Jesper Wallstedt, #33 Aatu Raty, #53 Simon Robertsson #88 Dylan Duke, #95 Robert Orr #97 Sean Tschigerl, #159 Elias Stenman (not drafted) #161 Trevor Wong (not drafted), #188 Simon Motew (not drafted), #193 xxxxxx A very close fourth is Wheeler #1 Owen Power, #14 Chaz Lucius, #33 Sasha Pastujov, #53 Sean Behrens (D) #88 Dylan Duke (F) #95 Joshua Roy #97 Connor Roulette, #159 Peter Reynolds (not drafted) #161 Jeremy Wilmer (not selected), #188 Trevor Wong (not drafted), #193 Kelle Ervasti (not drafted) Fifth is Pronman #1 Owen Power,#14 Chaz Lucius,#33 Nikita Chibrikov,#53 Kirill Kirsanov, #88 Justin Robidas, #95 Olivier Nadeau, #97 Vladislav Lukashevich (D), #159 Lorenzo Canonica (not drafted) #161 Daniil Lazutin (not drafted), #188 Ty Gallagher, #193 Daniil Pylenkov I'm in 6th, or maybe Button rakish #1 Dylan Guenther, #14 Logan Stankoven, #33 Anton Olsson, #53 Connor Roulette #88 Jack O'Brien (not drafted), #95 Victor Stjernborg, #97 Niko Huuhtanen (F), #159 Simon Knak (F) #161 Mikey Milne (not drafted), #188 Eric Alarie (not drafted), #193 Rhett Rhinehart (not drafted) Button #1 Owen Power, #14 Fedor Svechkov, #33 Samu Tuomaala (F), #53 Benjamin Gaudreau (G) #88 Dylan Duke #95 James Malatesta (F) #97 Robert Orr (F), #159 Hunter Strand (not drafted) #161 Dmitri Zugan (not drafted), #188 Nikita V. Novikov (D), #193 xxxxxxxxx The Sabres are last #1 Owen Power (D),#14 Isak Rosén (F),#33 Prokhor Poltapov (F),#53 Alexander Kisakov (F) #88 Stiven Sardaryan (F),#95 Joshua Bloom (F),#97 Olivier Nadeau (F),#159 Viljami Marjala (F) #161 William von Barnekow (F),#188 Nikita V. Novikov (D),#193 Tyson Kozak (F) For Year 9, we'll use the Sabres again, as they have a lot of picks. My board looks like this, though I often swap around things after I think about it for a while. While it's a weak draft at the top, it's not so bad for the picks Buffalo has. Juraj Slafkovsky Fin20 Jonathan Lekkerimaki SuperElit Liam Ohgren SuperElit Denton Mateychuk Marco Kasper Conor Geekie WHL Brad Lambert Pavel Mintyukov Danila Yurov Rutger McGroarty David Goyette Frank Nazar Isaac Howard Kevin Korchinski Lian Bichsel SHL Christian Kyrou Jagger Firkus WHL Fraser Minten WHL Mathew Seminoff wHL Aleksanteri Kaskimaki Fin20 Alexander Suzdalev Connor Kurth overage James Stefan overager Anton Johansson Petr Hauser Czech20 Matias Rantonen Fin20 Otto Hokkanen Fin20 German Tochilkin MHL Matyas Melovsky Czech20 Tnias Mathurin Marek Alscher Tyler Dunbar USHL Niks Fenenko Jeremy Langlois

I was in the process of duplicating pick224 for you, now, maybe I won't. Savoie... as he should

Dave MacPherson posted his 2022 stats. I didn't think this was going to happen as he has been hired by the Sarnia Sting: pick224.com

Think Wayne's done? He's a pretty competitive guy.

There's no truth to this at all, you idiot.

I think you saw the Toronto (once Vancouver) defenseman being waived.

So I looked at 16 year olds for the first time. The old system I could do everybody, which was good, new system, not so good (I'm taking some data from here, some data from there, very slow). So I only did 10. Wright didn't play in a league that I grade at 16, but his 15 numbers are really good. Everyone else was well below where I expected. Yurov was 25th among the admittedly random group of 16 year olds I have scored. He sits with a lot of 8th overalls, Rossi's at 23rd, Cozens' at 24th, Newhook's at 26th. Savoie's at 39th, Kemell's at 41st, Cooley's at 42nd, Lambert's at 44th, Slafkovsky's at 80th, Miro... at 88th. Korchinski is 23rd among defensemen, and I haven't graded many defensemen. I expect a few guys to have really great DY years (Kemell looks to be having a great start), but the DY-1 was really weak.

Prow is an Amerk type, if I remember right, he was around last year. Malone was drafted a few years back. He doesn't score, but people love how he plays.

Somehow I missed these guys, just found them. They play with Phil a lot, as Phil's Friends. I find their Dead stuff a bit note for note, and I'm always looking for a reinvention, like their version of Miss You. I think of it as what Jerry would have done with it, had the Dead actually practiced.

A Dead cover band plays the Stones classic.