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Everything posted by 7+6=13
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He'd still be great but the way you're allowed to lean on offensive players today, he'd have to be willing to be more physical. It's tough treading out there now.
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Can you give some examples of players you're talking about hoping they work themselves into the core?
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We have 12 players with contracts for next year: Larsson, ERod, O'Reilly, Girgs, Eichel, Okposo, Pommers, Bogo, Risto, Scandella, Beaulieu and Mcabe. We have 6 players with contracts in 2019: O'Reilly, Eichel, Okposo, Risto, Bogo and Scandella. This team in 2 years time will go through a major overhaul. I just don't see the significance of how winning this season carries over to what is going to be a likely 70% turnover on who's on the team. We will likely be terrible for a couple more years because learning to play together is going to go from - learning the system to completely different players very very soon. It'll be a learning to play with someone you haven't played with all over again - just as it is now. Except now doesn't matter, IMO. Right now it is about acquiring assets so that when that time comes our young rochester and abroad players are coming to the Sabres in real numbers. This is the draft that's critical to getting a player ready for the NHL in a couple years. The timing should be perfect as I expect us to be on the rise when this years player is ready.
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Why? There's absolutely no evidence this is true. Teams don't know crap. You tell them you're getting calls from 4 of their competitors that want Kane and you're not offering as much as they are. Then see how it plays and take the highest offer. This can't happen until the deadline pushing the urgency on the "teams" from the other end.
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"Love don't let me go"?
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You can't trade players for food made in the same city.
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As apposed to having Ennis at 4.6 Mil instead of Pominville?
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So successful teams either what have players that all like to party or none like to party? There can't be some that do and some that don't and still play good hockey? This is crazy, imo.
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I saw Trade: Lehner on the main page and freaked out. Got me!
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What Should The Sabres Goals Be For The Rest of The Season?
7+6=13 replied to GASabresIUFAN's topic in The Aud Club
So the FO should keep Kane, Lehner, or anyone else they would trade for future considerations? -
What Should The Sabres Goals Be For The Rest of The Season?
7+6=13 replied to GASabresIUFAN's topic in The Aud Club
It was meant to be so desired affect accomplished. There was a larger point in there though too. -
What Should The Sabres Goals Be For The Rest of The Season?
7+6=13 replied to GASabresIUFAN's topic in The Aud Club
I'll acquiesce on that. So it can go both ways. I see your point - today I can't get you to see mine. Wish I could have articulated it in a better way. You're one of my favorite posters and I agree with you like 90% of the time. Today we don't, so what, right? -
What Should The Sabres Goals Be For The Rest of The Season?
7+6=13 replied to GASabresIUFAN's topic in The Aud Club
Me, then we wouldn't have had to get lucky getting our 8th pick when JBot had him slated 3rd. -
What Should The Sabres Goals Be For The Rest of The Season?
7+6=13 replied to GASabresIUFAN's topic in The Aud Club
I get it but they are. I didn't want this but we're here. Shoot I probably voted in the top 20% for the "how many points will the Sabres have in October". I thought they'd come out hot - mirroring how Jack came out like a cannon after returning from injury. I was stunned the first few Months. I've since caught my breath and thought what's the positive? For me it's Jack getting points and getting the best pick we can. It's the only thing to me worth going through this shockingly awful season in which I thought my team would knock on the playoff door. -
What Should The Sabres Goals Be For The Rest of The Season?
7+6=13 replied to GASabresIUFAN's topic in The Aud Club
Perfectly said. My opinion is, I would rather they lose the extra 5 games and give me the 8%. See erick72 - you don't have to attach the persons love for the team to reach a simple opinion on what you think is best for the team. -
What Should The Sabres Goals Be For The Rest of The Season?
7+6=13 replied to GASabresIUFAN's topic in The Aud Club
Don't spin things by saying "fans who cannot enjoy a win". I've watched almost every game. I just like watching them play and if we lose, I try to find some positive, i.e. Jack got a point, etc. What if you hoping for wins - and wins hurt the team long term? Will you admit you are a hypocrite as you camouflage selfishness by wearing a cloak of "fan"? After all, it's all about you, right? -
What Should The Sabres Goals Be For The Rest of The Season?
7+6=13 replied to GASabresIUFAN's topic in The Aud Club
Obviously fans hoping or not hoping for wins or losses is meaningless. The debate isn't what we want the players to do. They should go out and play to win. The discussion is simple - either wins help this team down the road more or losses help more with the probability of a better draft pick. -
What Should The Sabres Goals Be For The Rest of The Season?
7+6=13 replied to GASabresIUFAN's topic in The Aud Club
I won't speak for Alko - whom you responded to but here's the distinction for me. I believed and wanted them to be a playoff bubble team - and yes, it was to keep moving forward. They didn't - they're worse. It has been a quit shocking season. It's got to be blown up again, I can't believe it. So after a deep breath from enduring this season so far - next steps - we can easily be a completely different roster in 2 years and draft picks can help. edit: Obviously a little harder for me to make this case with how they've been playing the last 3 games. Geesh, where's that been? Tale of 2 different teams. So maybe I'm nuts. -
I'm inclined to agree. Conjecture of course on my part, but reading into his comments to the BN Monday - didn't strike me as a player thinking "get me out of here and on a playoff team".
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Hard for me to blame him. Effort has never been a complaint associated with Kane and I respect him for that. He did what he needed to do to put up points on a putrid team, made himself valuable to the Sabres and served himself well for his next contract. He deserves to be traded and I'm hoping we get a stockpile in return.
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What Should The Sabres Goals Be For The Rest of The Season?
7+6=13 replied to GASabresIUFAN's topic in The Aud Club
It's not strategic losing it's reality from the re-build gone wrong based on how this team has performed. We're very very lucky though because we're not stuck for more than a couple more years. We have cap relief coming, bad contracts leaving, the asset in Kane, a low pick this year and a reasonable amount of prospects one looking very promising in Casey. Obviously JBot needs to steer the ship properly. We're very fortunate to go from a rebuild that was supposed to be complete last year - to having an opportunity to start fresh this quick is remarkable. -
What Should The Sabres Goals Be For The Rest of The Season?
7+6=13 replied to GASabresIUFAN's topic in The Aud Club
Not a huge argument from me on your points but I think the timing is off. This team is very bad with little on it to develop into futures. I don't believe a competitive team can be constructed using half of it's players. I agree the switch eventually has to be flipped but it would be like using a reading lamp on the beach mid morning to need it now. We're not there and we're also constructed to not be there. We have 6 guys signed for 2019 and 4 guys signed for the 2020 season. Nashville has 13 and 8 respectively. Our team is built this year and partially next with contract commitments and several bad ones - and it's been decided this built team can't win. It'll be purged and re-built starting small next year then bigger in 2019 and the total makeover completed by 2020. Then we'll be ready to field a competitive team if JBot does it correctly (obviously subjective). I think winning begins to be important (to the organization) - long term in parallel with the rebuild. I'm willing to have it suck the rest of this year for the few players that will be here. -
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7+6=13 replied to GASabresIUFAN's topic in The Aud Club
I've discussed some who are likely part of that 6-7 for two reasons, one being contracts will probably dictate, and the second is my personal hope. We agree on Eichel, Reinhart and Risto - then I'd add O'Reilly (hope), Okposo (contract). We have 4 players under contract currently for the 2020 season, so I'll add the possibilites/hope for Antipin, ERod and Baptiste. I'm just not convinced winning a handful more games this year effects that 2020 team - more than having a lower pick. It could, because obviously the say 6th player could be better than the 4th player drafted, but I'd rather JBot have that choice in player. Again, I'm not fervent on losing. I am and we all are done with that thought process. I'm just making the argument that it may not be the long term best thing as we sit today. Especially when it's likely we'll downgrade anyway after a trade or two in this season. To sum up. I'm ok with Eichel and Reinhart having personal success without necessarily a win because I'm not worried about Risto's psyche and I don't care about O'Reilly's, Okposo's, Antipin's, ERod's and/or Baptiste's enough to slide up in the draft. Most of the rest of the players will not be here in 2020. Because of the massive turn around we're about to experience - this current roster won't be the crescendo of winning to welcome our young players. -
What Should The Sabres Goals Be For The Rest of The Season?
7+6=13 replied to GASabresIUFAN's topic in The Aud Club
I honestly have no idea what you're saying and am positive I don't know how it could relate to my post. -
What Should The Sabres Goals Be For The Rest of The Season?
7+6=13 replied to GASabresIUFAN's topic in The Aud Club
Ok, I could get there. I don't think we're on polar opposites sides of thought. I guess I just see less value in winning 5 more games than you and I see value in being up a couple spots in this years draft. The premise being the core is 3 players from the current roster. As I mentioned Eichel is my primary concern - I'd like Reinhart to be a valuable player on the eventual team - I believe Risto will be there when we really need him. I'm hoping in 2-3 years O'reilly is a 3rd line center and Okposo a solid 31-32 year old role player - and not part of the core. I hope the core is Eichel, Reinhart, Casey, Guhle, Ullmark, Risto, then a combination from: another player or two in our system /player or pick from Kane trade/ the draft pick this year. Then in 4 years building through free agency also we're ready to contend for many years.