7+6=13

I wasn't being snarky - you're a sensitive little guy. You're not the greatest reader. I understand you are comparing NHL first two years of Vesey vs what Casey will do. My point you missed or conveniently skip over is if Reinhart (20 and 21 yrs) who is far less skilled can compare better than Vesey's numbers - why can't Casey? ' You've got real problems if you think Casey is to Vesey as Eichel is to McDavid.

This isn't the same rough and tumble NHL I grew up with. This is more grabbing and holding. It's more aggravating than dangerous. Casey's a good sized young man and is going to be fine.

I know, they're far superior to Vesey's numbers.

Of course, but I wouldn't automatically say I'm not confident he can put up Vesey numbers.

Thanks, forgot about that signing.

You don't think he can put up Reinhart numbers 23 and 17 he posted at 20 and 21 years old?

Peterson?

The last few games have been terrible and it may be the case now. I just didn't see quit 3/4 of the season. I saw a group of players not good enough to play against the other team. That goes for the goal tender too. We played tough against some of the better teams in the league and that showed effort - especially when you saw some of the better teams blow us out, which is what actually should happen.

You guys have much better hockey eyes than me but I don't see it that way. I just don't think it's a heart issue. We aren't skilled enough. Outside of Jack we don't have another high end player. We're a team comprised of roll players and it hasn't been good enough. To me it's critical the next draft brings one to us. This team needs two excellent young players to emerge and the greatest chance of that, IMO, is Casey and this years draft.

If you're comparing last years team to this years and saying we should be better - then why are you blaming Gionta (last year) for this "lazy bunch". It's a largely different roster. Who are these "aging vets" we keep bringing in that "are over-paid and past their prime"? You mean like Pommers? So we could get rid of a terrible Ennis contract and player? Ok, bring back Ennis. It's JBot's first year - he can't be blamed for what he's inherited. Don't you think it's fair to start over with him?

NCAA womens basketball doing that now too.

Even if Casey plays with the Sabres, I'd hate to have him projected on the second line. McDavid started his career on the 3rd line - and he's one of the best to come along in a long time. This is exactly how you ruin or at minimum stall a young players career - putting too much pressure on him too early. Let him ease into the NHL on the 3rd or 4th line.

She's definitely not ugly but she's also not hot.

Hottie? No

Do you mean within our own fan base or outside people?

I'm sure we'll have several guys with a + before seasons end.

This could be something as simple as typical ROR. He has a defense mechanism that when he's not playing well - he doubles down on being hard on himself. I don't really care for it - it's a little bit of a turn off for me - especially when he's depended on to be a leader, not sulk. I could see him all down on himself - in an Eeyore type fashion - it's very likely I'll be gone because I'm one of the ones getting payed well and not playing well.

I have the strangest feeling we're going to lose.

We're not taking on any crap contracts and if you think Kane is more than a rental and you want to warm him up to your time to resign him - you'll give us a first round pick for it.

He did that for you today - you just won't accept it. The NHL is told you what Kane is worth but you wanted JBot to do something special for you. You're not able to be satisfied - that's your fault.

No it wouldn't depend on that - that's fantasy land. Just for this year wouldn't be taking on bad money - that would be taking on good money and we would have done that.

You're not paying attention because you don't paint the whole picture - only what consoles you. They also had to take on salaries - something the Sabres absolutely should run from and they did.

He's not going to earn your trust because you presume that which you can't know. You're the wait and see not those that are defending the trade. I try not to get hung up on what I can't know and only what I do know. SJ offered this trade - JBot went to the other clubs and said I'm getting offered this, will you do better? Other team(s) said no. We trade Kane because that's his value to the other NHL teams. How on earth could I pretend to know or get hung up on what I'd have to pretend to know what was offered 2 Months ago.

It matters not how they value Kane long term.

Would you say the same for the other teams that traded today and last week? Only we got offered more a month or 2 ago?