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I don't know what to believe any more. I believe it might be time to start rooting for my local team.

All I'm saying is that rarely in sports nowadays do teams actually plan that far ahead. It's tough to find any teams that will bottom out and say, let's load up on prospects and gradually get better over the better part of a decade. Hell, most teams don't even keep their front office employed that long much less plan that far ahead.

Five, six, eight years...........let's not get carried away.

Tim Thomas hurt again, left the game with 3:00 left in the 3rd against the Hawks. Looks like he tweaked his groin again.

Good point, I agree somewhat. We've all seen this team lose games they should have won, and vice versa. After the break, as it stands right now, the Bills could be facing two teams in consecutive weeks that will end up looking for that #1 overall pick. The Chiefs are due to lose one. :flirt: Not sure if I subscribe to the theory of purposely losing to get the first pick though.

If they can manage to pull off one win in the next two weeks against two very difficult teams................ They have a VERY weak schedule immediately following the bye week.

Not sure, but I know I'm rapidly losing interest.

It must suck to let misery run your life.

I haven't kept track but I'll be sure to point them out, as long as you're willing to enforce the same standards on somebody else. I'd hate to see somebody enforce a certain standard on a poster simply as a means to gang up on him while others get off Scott Free.

It's highly ammusing to me to see how offended some people get when called out on their hypocrisy. In many cases here, in more ways than one. Sick, you can say whatever you want. The neat part about all this is I also have an opinion. For some reason you think I can't express it. Get over it, I'm not the first person to call you out as the most miserable person on this board. But for some reason you feel the need to come after me. The truth hurts for many......... It's accuracy? Not sure I would consider Hodgson at this point. He is the least of this team's concerns, not to mention he got thrown into the #1 spot as a young center on the worst offensive team in the league. The rest I agree with. Not sure how you went from liking Rolston to saying my point was non-sensical when I didn't even mention him, in the matter of two sentences. Is there a double standard here, or can I use this post for the other countless times it applies? One thing that annoys me is how some people apply certain standards only in certain situations. The level of inconsistency in this place is staggering.

Huberdeau and Boyes put on a clinic in the shootout.

As can you and Weave. See how that works?

Don't patronize me, there is a difference and you damn well know it.

Now you know how others feel about 'Fire Darcy' permeating into every thread.

Mainly just him, thanks.

I read them all. You supported tanking and then went on to complain when they start the season off as the worst team in the league. You're not difficult to figure out, you do everything possible to bitch in every single post you make even if it means contradicting yourself. You are the biggest crybaby on this forum, it must suck to be such a miserable individual. The Bills and Sabres could win the Cup and Super Bowl this year and you would still find something to bitch about. Are you sure you're not from New Jersey and you meant to spend the winter on this coast? I don't like to make posts like this, but it needed to be said.

With Tallon's ties to Chicago, it was a mutual deal to help the Hawks with cap issues by shipping Campbell to Florida. Not to mention Tallon is big on Campbell.

When Tallon was hired, he said he was wiping the slat clean. And I mean CLEAN. After the season, he talked to each player and asked them who wanted to be a part of it. Anybody else was getting shipped out. He made a ton of trades and loaded up with EIGHT 1st and 2nd round picks in two years. The following year they had three players on the opening day roster that were on the previous year. Tallon didn't want to rush the young guys into the lineup so he picked up a bunch of retreads to fill in the holes and try to entertain the fans in the meantime. Turns out, they gelled well enough to win the division. The team wasn't expecting that, and that roster certainly wasn't going to be the roster moving forward. It was strictly temporary. Last year was supposed to be the bad year. It was supposed to be the year some of the kids made the transition in the NHL. Unfortuantely, some ended up getting here sooner than later because of some serious injury issues. But, it wasn't that bad of a situation because they got to see how far some of them had progressed. Some of the new kids need one more year, or at least a portion of this year. One or two more still need to make the transition from juniors, but the bulk of the new 'core' is already here or just about to crack the lineup. The difference between Tallon and Darcy is that Tallon filled the holes with seasoned vets that may or may not pan out. If they don't pan out, it's no big deal because they were signed for pennies. But they serve as role players for the young guys for a year or two. Versteeg is back and healthy, Weaver is turning out to be a killer D-man, Bjugstad is getting better day by day and Barkov looks like he belongs here. Huberdeau looks like a seasoned vet and is acting like a captain. The Panthers lost last night, but they looked like 10X the teams the Sabres were (I was watching both games at the same time). One young guy they have a problem with is Markstrom. He has huge talent but hasn't matured yet. He has a terrible knack for letting in the majority of his goals in the first 5 minutes of a game. Tim Thomas is a band-aid. It wouldn't surprise me if Tallon makes a deal for a goaltender in the next month or two if Markstrom doesn't wake up. This team could easily be 4-4 with no where to go but up. They play like they care, if the Panthers and Sabres are supposed to be the two worst teams in the conference there is going to be about a 15 point difference between 15th and 16th. Tell me something, are you seriously going to tell us that cap space is an indicator of how good a team is supposed to be? You seem to be an intelligent person, I just can't see how you would actually subscribe to this theory. If you don't, then there really is no need for this discussion.

Considering you were one of the people in support of tanking and rebuilding, how can you possibly question my viewpoint when you can't even stand by your own? They...... Management, fans, media....... It's not that difficult. Unless you've paid attention to the Panthers rebuild, I can't help you. I'm not giving a complete summary. As far as cap space, are you seriously going to hold that against the team when a large portion of that . Nevermind................ This shouldn't need an explanation.

You win

I wasn't talking about 2011. I was talking about the end of last year when the 'tank and pray' strategy seemed to gain strength. Huberdeau is above and beyond anything BFLO has under 25 at the moment. There was more energy out of that team last night against the Bruins than the Sabres have had all year. Goaltending is the only issue they have going forward unless Markstrom gets his head out of his ass. Want to know the difference? They've had the patience to wait three years to build a solid team going forward. They didn't ask for a total rebuild and then cry about it 9 games into the first season.

Can we go back to the end of last year and gauge what percentage of Sabres fans wanted to tank to get the best picks? Or does that not fit this week's narrative? The salary cap point is completely irrelevant. Nevermind on the cap thing. I see it's been addressed already. To further your analogy, it's like the speed limit was dropped 20 MPH and you still had a couple of sports cars in the garage, but you're stuck with them because nobody wants to buy them. Actually Florida is doing it the right way. If you've watched them you would know. Good post.

Um, what? http://forums.sabrespace.com/topic/21661-19-9-2/#entry447257

We get it, you hate BFLO sports and you'll look for every opportunity to trash them.

Is that a good or bad thing?