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Everybody's a victim.

Go to control panel and uninstall programs. From there click on 'view installed updates' and look for KB3035583. Uninstall that, it's the notification for Windows 10. You won't get bothered any more, if you want to install Windows 10 later on, just go back and reinstall KB3035583.

Who said there was a problem? I just meant I didn't quite introduce the topic well enough so I was just going to let it die. I have no issue with conflicting opinions.

With that said, I'm going to bow out of this conversation. I tried to stimulate a discussion and it's really not headed in the direction I thought it would. Probably my own fault for even bringing it up.

Many laws are broken down by severity and intent. Homicide for instance. This woman is going to be a registered sex offender. Do you know who else registers as a sex offender? The heinous monsters that fondle toddlers. Do you think that is even remotely similar? I've said she should get penalized for statutory rape. I just don't think the punishment is fair.

I had a response lined up, but I'm going to leave it alone. It's apparent the lines of communication are broken somewhere. If there are such clear cut lines in age and maturity, how come there are so many different ages of consent? Are kids that much more immature in Florida? You might want to look at the majority of definitions of 'child' because in most cases the line is drawn as puberty.

I didn't say it wasn't a big deal, I said there should be double standards. I also mentioned that there is a difference between a relative and a non-relative. Should we really get into every possible scenario that can affect people later in life? Because if we can there are hundreds of things that need to be outlawed. (Although it seems we're doing everything in our power to do just that).

If there's something puzzling about my points, feel free to ask. I don't want to be misunderstood, sometimes it's tough to get the point across on an internet forum. I've gotta run, but I'll get back to it eventually.

I'm not saying women should be able to get away with whatever they want, I'm just saying double standards should exist. Each case should be dealt with on an individual basis, based on the level of traumatization. Age of consent in Maryland is 16. Would he feel any differently if this happened a few months down the road? I doubt it. I don't know, I'm not him. But there are two factors that need to be addressed. 1) It was with a relative 2) he was 13, not 15. I'm not sure what is so puzzling, my viewpoint is that men and women are not equal (on so many levels) and society is forcing them to be. Note I am not saying neither one is better than the other, they just aren't equal. (I don't know why I need to make that clear, but somebody will eventually come along and imply that's what I meant).

I brought traumatization into the discussion because in most cases the boy isn't going to oppose having sex with an older hot woman until society tries to convince him that he needs to be traumatized. I'm not minimizing what one of our board members went through, but that also involved an immediate family member. Have somebody go into a school and bring a picture of the hot cheerleader, or one of the hot female teachers that got busted, and ask the junior and sophomore males if they would oppose a night with them. I've got a pretty good idea what the results would be. Laws aren't in place to prevent the possibility of trauma to kids later in life........ if that were the case nobody would be allowed to get divorced.

Was he traumatized by the situation, or was he traumatized because society told him he was supposed to be traumatized? Of course all ages are arbitrary, but everybody is different. Some can drink responsibly when they're 18, some can't at 40. I think she should get busted for statuatory rape, but I think a jury should decide the level of victimization. I'm not saying underaged males aren't traumatized by having sex with older women (we've all seen the cases of female teachers) what I'm saying is many most likely aren't traumatized. Instead of letting humans grow up to decide for themselves what is best for them, society has increasingly felt the need to tell them the situations in which they should be traumatized. She broke the law, she should get punished. But (solely based on reports) it appears she didn't do anything agressively. It's a mostly victimless crime. I say mostly because I know somebody will chime in with the exception, and I"m also well aware it's always a victimless crime.

Some people aren't mature enough to make decisions about sex when they're 25. The age of consent is an arbitrary number. If he was 15 in a state where the age of consent is 16, does he gain maturity overnight on his birthday? I'll go out on a limb and say he probably enjoyed it and his mother tried to convince him how traumatized he should be. Let the kid testify, if there was no pressure and he didn't oppose the idea, give her a misdemeanor for him being 15. Double standards should exist, we're not the same.

Depends on how you define 'consequences'.

We're you not making this point in response to the questions I asked on the previous page? It appears so, the content is directly related. Nobody jumped on you, stop being a bully.

Attractiveness plays a role when the situations are reversed. Going back to the 'regret' situations from earlier, more women will regret what they did that night when they wake up to an ugly fat dude instead of one of the college hotties.

Until you consider the second question in my post. Then it's not so irrelevant. I think a double standard should exist. Men and women are different, they are not equal. Yes he was underaged, she was wrong in that case. But based on a couple of different sources I read about this story it appears his mother found out he was bragging about it which would indicate he wasn't opposed to the idea. It also appears the mother is the one pushing the matter because her baby got taken advantage of. If she forcibly raped him then she should get significant jail time. But I'm getting the impression this isn't what happened. Let the kid testify.

Does a double standard exist? If not, should it? http://abc13.com/news/former-nfl-cheerleader-sentenced-for-raping-teen/950574/

I wouldn't trade an 8th rounder for him.

I think you're right about Tyrod. Going to be an interesting couple of weeks to see how this plays out. EJ isn't flashy but he's calm and collected and doesn't do much wrong.

I think EJ's looked pretty good the last two games. I'm not a fan of a running QB.

When did I get upset about what somebody said? Statisticians also have their own way of defining the parameters in order to meet their standards.

Nice post, I'm glad you addressed pretty much everything we've talked about so far. I agree it's a conglomeration of factors that has lead to all of this. It doesn't help that we've turned into a society where everybody needs to be a victim. (This is not just about rape). Whether it's rape, a speeding ticket, race, jobs, bullying........... not to mention downright blaming somebody else because very few people hold themselves acocuntable any more. I tend to question sexual abuse statistics, in fact I tend to question many statistics nowadays. How do they determine who is a victim of abuse/assault? Is being followed to your car and held against your will while somebody tears your clothes off considered assault? I'm sure it is, but do they also consider a slap on the butt assault/abuse? It's not that far-fetched to think so any more. I also tend to question a stat that says 80% of assaults aren't reported to police. How do you know how many cases haven't been reported if they haven't been reported? It's a victim society fueled by double standards, political correctness and lack of accountability. It's a volatile mix.

'Silent and motionless' means no. Got it.

It's not a rant, I'm just pointing out that you're living in a fantasy world. I withdrew the rest of explanation because I wasn't about to explain in a PG rated forum how a woman going quiet isn't a sign that she doesn't want to go any further. If you want an explanation, feel free to message me.

So 1 in 5 report sexual abuse and 80% of cases aren't reported?