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Great post.

I see there are 11 episodes. Is that the end or are there more? Is it a series or a multi-part documentary?

I guess I'm the only one that doesn't see Bogo playing nearly as bad as some think.

What are you doing to lose weight? I'm thinking about trying some sort of meal replacement plan. Still researching.

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Can we all agree that hockey has the worst nicknames?

And I respect your stance as well. Here's why I disagree with some of that. In 2014, 42,733 died from suicide. From year to year the number of suicides by firearm is roughly just above 50%. (2014 was actually 49.9%) 20% of suicides are people the age of 85 and older. Some of these might be labeled assisted suicides. But I'm going to go out on a limb and say most 85+ are probably pretty determined to end it all. I don't think any waiting periods will stop them. So we're left with approx 34,000. Approx 35-40% of Americans already own guns so a waiting period for background checks is irrelevant. That leaves 12,000-13,500 suicides per year. Now we throw in the fact that suicide rates have been relatively stable for over six decades for which many possible scenarios have passed by that could alter that number, (societal norms, gun ownership, drugs, treatment programs, mental health) and after all that the numbers still haven't changed. Not to mention the fact that many civilized nations with strong gun laws have similar suicide rates as the US. Suicide is terrible, no doubt some can be prevented. But out of risk of sounding cold, 12,000-13,500 possible preventions because of a waiting period is insignificant especially when you consider that a large majority of those people would simply find other means to carry out their death. Here's why driving and mass shootings are not comparable. One, driving isn't a freedom or a right. Two, there is a 1/470 chance of dying in a car wreck. There is a 1/650,000 chance of dying by lightning. There is a 1/12,000,000-15,000,000 chance of dying by mass shooting. It's all about insignificance again. And that number is just for mass shootings, the odds of dying by mass shooting at the hands of an illegally purchased firearm is even less. To me there are many, many more important issues to be dealing with at this moment than using executive orders to deal with problems that don't exist. Take away the hype, take away the agenda, take away the media driven rhetoric and death by illegally purchased firearms would be listed on the back page along with the comics when it comes down to order of significance. Give it a 'bang for the buck' value in how much it will cost tax payers and it's money that should be spent elsewhere. https://www.afsp.org/understanding-suicide/facts-and-figures http://www.who.int/mental_health/media/unitstates.pdf http://www.iii.org/fact-statistic/mortality-risk

Ask d4rk............ I'm pretty sure you don't want to get me involved in driving and preventable deaths. :angel: $34.6 billion for suicides seems awfully high. I'm trying to track down other numbers on suicide, but I'll get back later.

It's a moot point, an executive order was issued to lift the ban on funding.

I think the NRA exerts tremendous influence. Too much, in fact. There was an executive order in 2013 that lifted the ban on CDC funding.

Can't blame the NRA for this. It's been nearly twenty years since this happened, budgets change every year. The Dems had control of Congress under Obama early on, if they felt it was important they would have done something about it then. I really don't want the government involved in studies in which they create legislation. Crime stats are readily available, their parties do their own research. Not to mention funding is available through grants for schools to do relevant studies. The government can find ways to fund anything, they just go through different avenues.

I think a few still do, but really aren't enforced as far as I know.

Yes I would. Just like I wouldn't blame the car manufacturer if my child did something stupid and wrapped it around a light pole. Just like I wouldn't blame the liquor company if my child died from alcohol poisoning. Just like I wouldn't ask for knife regulation if my child decided to slit her wrists. We need to stop demanding regulation for everything in which each person deems important regardless of how insignificant it is in the overall picture. Mass shootings are unfortunate, however they are statistically insignificant and most would not been prevented with background checks. I don't know where I stand on background checks, however I know where I stand on executive orders. Suicide is decriminalized for the most part right now. And yes. Criminalizing suicide is irony at its best. Lets make the person feel better about their failed attempt at suicide by charging them with a felony.

Who are we to say what somebody chooses to do with their own lives? Suicide rates are low in comparison and aren't any different than the nations with strict gun control.

By the way, I like City Lab. I just purchased a subscription to The Atlantic. Still waiting on my first issue.

And we spend too much doing that as well. The money that is spent on combating terrorism and the money that will be spent on this EO would save more lives if strategically spent elsewhere. Bang for the buck you might say. There is a motive behind this EO, and it's not to save lives. How many deaths per year are attributed to guns purchased without a background check? Stolen guns do not count.

Spend lots and lots of money we don't have on a statistically insignificant issue all while doing so without the approval of Congress, check.

Any good movies to catch up on?

....... If he didn't supplant the #1 center, that would make him #2.

Sometimes it does, I just don't think this is one of those times.

Yeah PHam, that's it............. everybody is just in season long slumps. What are the odds? It's so blatantly obvious who PHam favors and who he doesn't.

I must be watching the wrong games then.

Panthers: Sabres: :thumbdown:

Yeah, there's only so many times we can use the "that other team is so much better" excuse before they need to be held accountable for their lack of determination.

Not a bad idea.