nfreeman

You have got to be kidding me.

It means that someone can post stories they've heard about RB and describe them as stories they've heard. That's all that's happened -- plus someone else weirdly getting on a high horse and being fairly obnoxious about it. No. Whaley has been the GM for 4 (awful) seasons. His records were 6-10, 9-7, 8-8 and 7-9. Are you saying that the team president and the GM are not accountable for the team's performance? Really? While RB may have participated in negotiating the lease, there is NFW that the decision to make it economically very difficult to move the team came from anyone other than Ralph.

Who said anything about press conferences? Whaley is terrible for many reasons -- and the evidence is the team's record on his watch. If the Bills didn't need any help making themselves laughingstocks -- isn't RB, as team president, accountable for that? As for the poison pill -- it's pretty clear to me that it was Ralph's doing, not RB's.

1 - Well, you've admitted that he hired Whaley and that he participated in hiring Rex. Do I need more proof? 2 -- No. As team president, his role was to make money AND produce a good team that isn't an NFL laughingstock. He made a short-term decision to increase revenue by implementing the Toronto series, which materially contributed to the Bills' chronic losing and their "achieving" NFL laughingstock status. 3 -- So "someone has to be the GM" excuses hiring a terrible GM?

Dude. He's not a sales person. He's the team president. And are you going to continue to pretend that Rex, Whaley and the Toronto series weren't his babies, or that they didn't hurt the team?

Again: if his job is SVP-marketing, then you're right. But his job is team president (and was GM for a while too). That means he's accountable for them becoming the biggest joooooooooooooke in the NFL.

As for canning the heads of scouting: I'd guess that the new GM will want to put his own guys in those spots, and this was just clearing the decks for him to do so. It does lend credence to the notion that TP already has something cooking.

Me too.

No need to be a DB about it, either.

I hate to say this, but offseason plans are going to need to factor in the likelihood (which I've seen in the Snooze and which has been persuasively described to me by a doctor who admittedly only knows what has been made public) that Okposo is not coming back. So everyone agitating for a Kane or Reino trade should think twice about subtracting another high-end forward.

OK with me. Get someone from a highly-accomplished organization. I'd still like an experienced guy as president, though, and for Brandon to be ridden out on a rail.

Well, if you need things to be concrete, you can't really take Friedman's "I wonder if the team felt Murray leaked it" as "Murray leaked it." Go on...

Whaley Rex Bills games in Toronto

No thanks. They've never gotten anywhere in the playoffs, and he chose to build his forward corps around 3 expensive wingers (Parise, Vanek and Pommer). Very nice.

And that's that.

This. Throw $$ at Duds to serve as president and hire the next GM. Then we start to look like we have a professional FO.

Chin up, my friend. TP is going to hit the mark on this one, just like, I believe, he has done with the Bills (with Whaley apparently on his way out and McDermott seeming like a real HC). And it's at least 50/50, and probably more like 70/30, that canning GMTM was the right call. Someone pls post the "get out" gif.

Hammy on WGR: Brandon will NOT be involved in hiring the new GM. Hammy wants Dudley, either for GM or president/czar.

GA beat me to it. I have a hard time seeing more than 1 of Kane, Reinhart, Risto and Nylander shipped out, and frankly I don't expect any of them to go (unless Kane tells the new GM that he's not interested in staying). I think Lehner will also be retained unless he demands a fat, long-term deal. I think Lombardi is fairly likely; Sutter less so but still possible. Yes, but this at least would be chasing someone who accomplished something, unlike Rex. I think you're supposed to put forth a thought and then let someone else compliment it as an interesting point.

Outstanding. As I posted upthread, Elliotte Friedman, who knows a lot more about this than anyone here, said today that people will be lining up for the GM job.

Well, I generally agree, but for his last decade-plus with us, just about everyone in the NFL with any juice had zero interest in working for the dearly departed Ralph Wilson. Quite possible.

We also need them to have better advisers on these decisions than Brandon. Elliotte Friedman on WGR: there are going to be a lot of people lined up for this job -- I can already tell by the number of people contacting me.

No -- he does the job of "SVP -- Marketing" well. He performs terribly as "Team President -- Football and Hockey." Good post. Before the ZFG charm took over, there were quite a few questions raised (by me and others) about hiring a GM from an organization that had been mired in mediocrity for most of his tenure there. It's still not clear to me what GMTM accomplished, before PLF hired him, to earn the job. Good post, and one that kinda stokes my interest in Lombardi.

Here's a thought: if TP had decided that GMTM didn't have the right stuff, then better to pull the trigger now -- ii.e. before losing any of the offseason -- and get the new guy in place to plan for and execute new HC hiring, the draft, expansion draft, free agency, Kane/Eichel extensions, etc.

This doesn't seem credible. GMTM must've known that he was going to have to articulate to TP his vision for improvement -- and he "didn't have any answers?" So he sat there in silence? As I mentioned above, it seems reasonable that TP would've held GMTM accountable for icing a lousy team -- especially for the disgraceful post-bye-week performance -- and firiing DDB as part of a housecleaning would make sense too. But TP firing GMTM because GMTM "had no answers" in their meeting? No.