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Oh, FFS. Kane had not one but TWO scrapes with the law relating to assaulting women. It's reasonably likely that he was innocent on both occasions, but also reasonably likely that he wasn't. We're in the middle of a national upheaval relating to sexual assault and harassment. Add to that (i) problems with teammates in Winnipeg, (ii) limitations in his game, (iii) zero playoff experience, (iv) injury history and (v) only getting him for 20-odd games plus playoffs before he's a UFA -- and that's why his value isn't where it might otherwise be. I also seem to recall Iginla and Seth Jones and PK Subban and Oduya garnering good returns in trade. These GMs are paid to win games and playoff series, and get canned when they don't -- not to propagate racism.

Awesome.

FWIW: Travis Yost of TSN was on with Schopp on Friday. When they asked him about Lehner, Yost said that his information was that Lehner had very little value around the NHL at this point, so he doesn't expect anyone to trade for him.

I’ll predict a 2018 1st plus a good goalie prospect plus a cap dump for Kane.

And goaltending!!

I will disagree with this description of the Myers - Bogo element of the trade. I think Myers had quite a bit more value around the NHL than Bogo did, and that Winnipeg wanted Myers as the key piece on the deal AND wanted to unload Bogo’s contract as another key piece.

Now that ^^ is a high-quality update. Thank you sir.

Well, Mick's and Sabel's CBA analysis is good enough for me! I wonder whether Harrington, Vogl, Hamilton or Hoppe has figured this out yet.

Interesting. I wonder what the long-term Corsi/Fenwick #s are for playoff matchups. Also interesting IMHO that a long-time Leafs fan (and Toronto resident? is that right millbank?) has this impression.

Yes, although I would add one more alternative: Reino being a borderline star won't be necessary if Mittlestadt is a star.

Spotrac is not rock-solid reliable, but they have Casey as RFA: http://www.spotrac.com/nhl/buffalo-sabres/casey-nelson-18863/ Trading him if he's UFA is an interesting idea.

That would be great, except... D'oh!

Correct. And for the record, it was a 3-day suspension, which has expired -- not an indefinite ban. The last post in that thread prior to the post in question was in 2015 -- well before the political poop hit the fan (both IRL and on this board). So it's not like it was an active thread. It's also not like it was a random video. It was posted to make a political point, which is what we're trying to stay away from.

I think if you want Karlsson here, you're talking ROR, Risto and a 2019 #1 for Karlsson and Ryan. And if I were 100% sure that Karlsson's achilles was 100% healed, I would make that trade in a heartbeat.

I think Kane and Pouliot will be traded, and don't expect anyone else to be (although there's always hope). I also think no one would offer the proposed values in #2, 4, 5, 6 or 7 above.

Love the optimism, but these are many miles away from being settled points.

Totally agree. Other than Miller, they weren't capable of running things, but they were high-quality supporting parts.

Not quite the unequivocal concession I was hoping for. If he doesn't win a starting job somewhere next year, I'll be back for an I-told-you-so. (Although I'll admit there's a good chance he is starting somewhere and performs better than he has this year.)

That is a generous depiction of my "lawn." Stony Brook is actually a bit of a hike from Brooklyn -- close to a 2-hour drive, depending on traffic. OTOH, if you like the beach, you're not too far from some great beaches.

That's been my impression as well. I just asked because GA seemed to indicate that he expects otherwise.

It rhymes with "spank." Yes indeedly. Outstanding. Am I crazy or did you just concede that Lehner stinks?

Now this is a great question that drives home an unavoidable point: although IMHO there's no way to know yet, it's certainly possible that Howie will wash out.

Who? The ECHL goalie? Were you perhaps referring to Davidsson? Also, is there any news regarding Borgen or Fitzgerald indicating that he is likely to sign with the Sabres?

I don't think we'll know this until mid-July-ish.

I find the speakerphone conversation on a cell phone while walking around in public deeply annoying and also very strange. What in the world is the purpose of doing this?