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3 dinosaurs = Pominville, Sobotka, Okposo

Price does not look that great. He is not carrying this team or any team into the playoffs the way he is playing.

Look at the bright side, at least we’re not paying our goalie 9 million a year for the next 7 years

There is a huge learning curve for defensemen. Bobby Orr had a better supporting cast. Dahlin will be great, it’s just going to take time.

Those are the types of mistakes that Dahlin won’t be making in 2 years when he is a Norris contender.

So you’re saying we give up a quality player for some cap dumps? Sounds like the ROR trade. Bots will jump at this underwhelming offer. We are doomed.

If Corsi is so reliable, why would Tampa's GM (who is much more competent than our GM) want to trade for Risto?

Not hard enough. You forgot to mention the incompetence of not resigning Kane and now having the wimpiest team around.

I’m still not convinced on metrics. If Ristos metric is lousy with buffalo and is traded to Tampa and the metric remains the same than I’ll be convinced.

What does this show for us unenlightened in the metrics?

I don't claim to understand advanced stats, but I don't think they are the end all be all. Are advanced stats reliable? Do they show that Karlson was a great defensemen on a terrible Senators team? Are there Norris nominees with terrible advanced stats? Will Risto's advanced stats suddenly improve if traded to Tampa if he is paired with a solid second pair defensemen and he plays 17 minutes a game?

Harrington in his column today ripped Botteril for essentially forcing Housley to play Thompson and Sobotka. Its time Bots took some blame for this disaster. I would say it more on Botteril than Housley, after all it was Botteril who hired Housley

Schopp is also a firm believer in hockey advanced stats. Since most people don’t understand them it’s makes the discussion trivial in Schoops eyes. He hates Risto due to advanced stats. I don’t claim to understand advanced stats or know how reliable they are and what predictive value they have. If Risto is traded to Tampa and plays 19 minutes a night on second pair with a consistent good partner, will his stats remain the same? Schopp never addresses issues like that, he just feels we need to get rid of Risto.

Schopp while extremely arrogant is fairly intelligent but his liberal bias is so obvious in any discussion. It’s always anti management pro player. He also brings race into issues where it doesn’t belong.

Bots needs to accept responsibility for the goaltending mess. Our goaltending is just as bad as last year. Bots moves at the position have failed.

What are thay saying specifically? Is it related to talent acquisition or salary cap management?

My dream scenario ROR scores a hat trick and we get blown out 6-0. Both Bots and Housley are fired after the game. An experienced respected GM is hired who hires an experienced respected coach and the Sabres lose the rest of the games win the lottery draft Hughes and go deep into the playoffs next year. A guy can dream. Why not?

Ok let’s hear 5 worse trades in Sabres history. I’m not sure it’s fair to count Hasek and trades done because the owner didn’t want to spend money

We seem too have a lot of 5th and 6th line players. Too bad we don’t have second line players. Problem solved ?

I’d settle for good players instead of trash. We have so much garbage on our lineup it’s absurd. Sobotka and Okposo are just as bad as Moulson. Thompson also plays a lot of minutes. He belongs in the AHL.

It’s obvious that ROR recognized that we had incompetent coaching and GM. That’s why he wanted out. He wants to win. Unfortunately the future looks bleak here.

If JBOT was a competent GM he would never have acquiesced to ROR trade demands. He would have improved the team around him and hired a competent coach to make ROR happy and produce a winner.

I’m excited to see what he can do. It will be interesting to see who his line mates are.

You know LSD is still illegal. How are we getting the 2nd overall pick? No way is Kakko ready to start on the top line. Bogo as a top pair??? Better than average goaltending-Is the Dominator coming out of retirement??? Who is the LW we are getting for Ristolainen?

I don't see any help coming from Rochester for next year. Some fans are expecting Olofsson to come in and light it up. I think that is unrealistic. Unless Botts makes a huge trade or an impact free agent signing, I don't see any way we are a contender. GASabresfan who is the new #2 center you are hoping for for next year?