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Yeah I'm talking like league minimum cheap and taking a spot away from the likes of Clague just on the small, small chance OEL turns it around. In other words, the SabreSpace western scouts tell me not to go after the guy with any seriousness at all & since I have very little experience watching him, I'll trust them.

I asked this in the around the NHL thread and some of the posters who live out west and get to see him often have me convinced that this is not a good idea unless he's really, really cheap.

Anyway, Peca gone.

AGAIN you're putting words in my mouth. You've gone from incorrectly accusing me of only wanting established big-name coaches (I note you did not address that inaccuracy) to now telling me that I think Granato is "JUST" a development coach. What I've said is that I know he is successful as a development coach and I wonder whether he can be the right guy moving forward. Please stop mischaracterizing what I write. Thank you. As for his in-game decision-making, if you're satisfied with it, you're satisfied with it. I am not. 3d most goals in the league doesn't mean anything if it doesn't turn into wins because he's not matching up defensively. I agree that a lot of the problems are based in the roster, but there are matchups and changes that can be made, even at forward, to combat other teams' strengths, and I didn't see him make those moves last year.

Yeah, that's why I am cautious about it. I'm not demanding that he be replaced. I think there are things he needs to work on.

Changing goalies when one is getting shelled and pulling goalies in a one or two goal game in a timely manner are not team decisions. Shaking up lines when they aren't working is not a team decision. Granato is a work in progress just like the team is. But he'd better work on it or hire an assistant who can help him.

I don't really have a "side," but I do question whether Granato is the right guy. Just questioning--not demanding his head by any means.

You know me better than that by now. (And it's "deep-seated.") I'm not biased in favor of big-name coaches. I think it's well-known on this board that my favorite Sabres coach of all time was a rookie head coach when he got here. Meanwhile, since that particularly excellent coach was fired, I've seen three head coaches with prior NHL experience--two with Jack Adams awards--fail here. My main problem with Granato is his lack of ability to adjust tactics in-game. I posted about it frequently last season. I also wonder whether he is able to make the jump from development coach to a winning head coach of a well-assembled team. (Assuming Adams finishes assembly with a G and D.) None of this has anything to do with his prior experience. Frankly, this was a very bad "take" from you.

This is fair; I still wonder whether he is the right coach going forward.

This is the big IF I mentioned in my first post in this thread.

I can agree with everything but your last sentence here. Granato's refusal to change goalies (at all or until too late), refusal to pull goalies until too late, and line decisions in-game were worth at least a win.

I can agree with this, but if he doesn't start making smarter in-game decisions and if the team is floundering by December, I'll want him out. (That is assuming that the team isn't dealing with personnel problems that are Adams's, rather than Granato's, job.)

This doesn't mean the coaching staff is right for this team (I know PTR is being tongue-in-cheek). Granato is a development coach who has serious problems to address when it comes to tactics and maybe strategy as well, and that has permeated the rest of the coaching staff (as it naturally should). I'm not sure that Peca is the answer to the problem or that he would be a good "coach-whisperer," but Granato is out of his depth often enough. The fact that he's the best the Sabres have managed since firing Ruff is of no moment; I think he's already done what he's good at. IF--and that's an IF--Peca is the right guy to take over in-game tactics, promote him; otherwise, gotta let him chase his dream.

ISIS tried some stuff in Austria yesterday, too. Got caught before they could cause any harm though.

https://apple.news/ANe9SDXNuRfKgJnCIWevybQ

Through an even more pinheaded lawyer. You're not wrong. Still. It's string with wax.

Do we think he's capable of turning it around at a reasonable price?

This team can't stay put.

I just noticed that my dental floss has an expiration date. Someone please explain.

Well I'll be *****. I'll join @That Aud Smell on the sidelines for the rest of the Moulds conversation.

He did not.

Haven't gone through that one yet and I'm not looking forward to it. I'm sorry for your loss. Hang in there.

NO NO AND NO. Get a player. This was in TBN two days ago but congrats to Dreger I guess?

They're retired. Complaining becomes their new jobs.

Among other things. And still he remains my fav.