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You put it much better than I did. @Ogre at some point your ancestors lost a war. I don't know against whom because I don't know which tribe or when it happened. There were a number of cultures invading the hemisphere, some of which (Portugal, Spain) were considerably more warmongering with respect to the natives than others (France, Netherlands). Your ancestors may even have lost wars to other native nations; I don't know. At some points, my ancestors lost wars, too. I know, for example, that my grandfather's family was long ago (EDIT I mean, as in well before his lifetime, like around the same time Europeans were invading the Americas) driven from their lands and across a border. The specific difference may be that my ancestors probably looked more like their conquerors than your ancestors did, meaning that they were less susceptible to discrimination on sight. (BTW my mention of the model longhouse was to demonstrate that we did in fact learn about natives in schools, and was not some self-congratulatory gesture.)

What do the Sabres need to add to pick 8 to get him?

I haven't kept up with everything; what is the round robin all about?

Fair point.

Q: You are Canadian, but deep inside can you say you at least feel a little bit Brazilian? A: Yes growing up in Canada mainly I am a Canadian citizen but I do feel that a part of me is still Brazilian having been born there. He also supports the Brazilian soccer team. https://www.nhl.com/kings/news/robyn-regehr-brazil/c-667771

I always thought it was a wolf.

Then we have to call Regehr a Canadian if we're going to be consistent. Let's just say Tsyplakov is Russian.

Well, wikipedia has a Belarussian flag next to his name. So one of them is right (probably NHL). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Buffalo_Sabres_players

Tsyplakov. Belarus. He was born there. I don't see why not.

Now that the question is over, I have looked. The above statement is incorrect. Which country and who is the player? Can't believe I missed Austria. And Brian Perry is about as obscure as it gets!

Well, we know from Regehr that Brazil is one, and the African player (I don't find him hard to remember) is Nigerian. Mogilny and others were born in the USSR, not Russia, does that count? Is Hasek Czech or Czechoslovakian? (Similar question for Satan.) Latvia certainly is one (Girgensons). Zubrus is Lithuanian. I think Antipin is Kazakh. There's probably a Ukranian in there somewhere. There's probably a Belorussian or Estonian in there. I don't think the Sabres ever had a Norwegian player. Maybe a Swiss or Frenchman?

It's the pullup trade!

And there goes the diet.

Regehr is Brazilian.

Mogilny was the obvious Asian for me. I'm not even going to try with the countries. Too many!

5. NA, SA, Africa, Europe, Asia.

Ok, here goes an attempt: The history of one culture conquering another, and the other's territory, is nearly as old as humanity itself. Stronger and more devious cultures always have found pastures belonging to weaker cultures to be greener, waters to be sweeter, spices more abundant, gold easier to find, etc. Things do not go well for the conquered. Often they are killed, raped, and/or enslaved. In some instances--and this happened quite frequently in pre-Columbian North America--the conquered culture is merely driven from its land. In still other instances (think of the French conquest of England or the English conquest of Ireland), the conquered are allowed to remain, but subject to the complete rule of the conqueror and forced to assimilate into the conqueror's culture. The Romans and the British/Americans took a different approach. The Romans did not force assimilation and in fact adopted elements of the cultures they conquered. (That's why Roman mythology looks just like Greek mythology but with the names changed.) They allowed their conquests to retain vast elements of their culture, including self-governance (think of the Israelites), as long as the conquered culture remained submissive. At even the inkling of an uprising, the Romans would act brutally (think of gladiators, slaves, and the destruction of the Second Temple). The British/Americans forced natives to move off of their lands and onto reservations, made and broke series of treaties, but allowed the natives to self-govern. Like the Romans, the British/Americans adopted some elements of some of the native cultures; we celebrate Thanksgiving and had "Indian head" nickels, etc. But this so-called permission to self-govern (affirmed just today by the Supreme Court) again relies upon the conquered culture remaining submissive. When there were uprisings, some of which were manufactured by the British/Americans, the British/Americans acted brutally just as the Romans did. At times, the British/Americans acted brutally even without an uprising, such as the Trail of Tears, and I'm sure the Romans did, too. But the bottom line remains that both of these conqueror cultures set aside land for the peoples they conquered and allowed some degree of independence. To the best of my recollection, those are the only two such instances in history. Does this mean that the native Americans were treated fairly? Absolutely not. The constant making and breaking of treaties alone demonstrates the opposite. But consistently across human history, on every one of the six populated continents, the conquered culture never is treated fairly. It doesn't matter if it's the Mongols conquering the Rus, one African tribe conquering another, one Native American tribe conquering another, or the Spanish reconquista, the conquered culture loses. It is part of the story of humanity and it is sad. Would I rather be in the position of a Native American today than in the position of a Scot oppressed by the British or a Congolese under Belgian rule? I can't answer that. The conquerors always treat the conquered shabbily. So while the British-Americans did things differently than what has been done through most of human history, I'm not going to say that it ended up being more beneficial. However, many of the cultures, and some notion of self-governance (again, as reaffirmed by the Supreme Court this morning), survived.

Thanks to @Curt for pointing out that this isn't my position. I don't think natives were fairly treated at all. I think they were treated *differently* than the vast majority of conquered peoples throughout history, but that doesn't mean "fairly." I will try to post a little more later.

It's not that. They were marched off to less desirable land, for sure. They weren't treated like most conquered peoples throughout history, either, though. This all happened before my grandparents came here, so there is no "white guilt" going on here. It's just my understanding of facts, which may be flawed, but which also is informed by having a very close friend who is Cherokee and from living in Oklahoma for a few years, which is heavily native.

Now that I've read up, no, it wasn't the same. Compare it to other conquerors worldwide over time. I think you'll find that we ddi allow cultures to survive. Or drive to Oklahoma. Or even through Catt County.

I don't know much about what happened in Canada, but here, European descendants stole their land and forced them onto reservations and allowed their cultures to continue. Gotcha. Somehow I learned about this stuff in school, though.

Actually, Americans and Canadians were a lot different than other conquerors in that respect. Like the Romans, Americans and Canadians did not force the conquered cultures to either assimilate or die. This, of course, led to other problems, which are serious problems. But it's an approach that's only been used twice as far as I know.

Did you go to school in NYS? If so, how long ago? I remember learning a lot about natives, and just about everyone I know who went to public school had to build a model longhouse in seventh grade.

You used it twice without the quotes in that very post. What is the preferred nomenclature?

She already knows.