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Until and unless @LTSreturns or until I am removed, which I acknowledge as a possibility, these are the guidelines going forward, adopted somewhat from the NFL subreddit: 1. This is a hockey board. We have a politics club associated with it, but it is fundamentally a hockey board. If you are participating in this club, you should also be participating in discussion about hockey. Yes, I realize that as of this writing (August 27), there is little hockey to discuss. 2. This club has resisted disinformation in the past, and will continue to do so. Accordingly, posts which cast doubt as to the reality of COVID will be deleted. Posts which attempt to downplay the pandemic, or which undermine widespread agreement among the scientific and medical communities about the efficacy of vaccines in preventing death and the spread of COVID-19 will be deleted. Posts which can be interpreted as having the potential to delay someone from receiving the vaccine for any reason other than concern about side effects that we don't know about yet, will be deleted. Posts which suggest that a person can be protected from the virus by ingesting a substance not intended for that purpose, such as HCQ or Invermectin, will be deleted. All of these pose a threat to human life, and all but the potential existence of side effects have been conclusively refuted by scientific and medical communities worldwide. Therefore, all of these theories are banned except for the potential existence of side effects. 3. While statements by NHL personalities (e.g., tweets) are allowed in certain circumstances, this doesn't mean carte blanche for posters to spread politicial, scientific or medical mistruths within the comments regarding those statements. 4. Repeat offenders will be banned from the club. In other words, this IS the warning. Examples of acceptable posts: --How the virus has affected you personally. --Infection/death rates among/between states, countries, etc. --Your reasons for receiving or not receiving the vaccine, subject to rule 3 above). --Complaining about mask mandates. --Complaining about vaccine mandates. Etc. There is a wide range of acceptable dialogue. COVID denial or denial of the efficacy of vaccines is not within that range.

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No you did not. Instead, you engaged in whataboutism and moved goalposts around and started talking about safety. If someone doubts the safety of the vaccine, well, I think they're wrong, but I won't call them a liar. We won't know for a long, long time. Someone who says the vaccine doesn't work or is making the virus stronger is lying and is doing so at risk to human life, and for no political reason. I don't know why you're even tolerating it, much less defending it. Would we tolerate similar lies from 9/11 truthers? Of course not--and there's not even a present risk to human life, there.

There is nothing political about telling people that a vaccine doesn't work, when it works. You have your reasons for not taking it, but you haven't said it doesn't work, or that it makes the virus stronger, etc. Others have. There is nothing political about such lies.

Freeman is ignoring the fact that people have tried a more calm approach for several weeks and now just want the disinformation campaign to stop. Stop the lies, stop the invective. It's pretty simple, really.

For the record, you are NOT one of the posters who are distributing disinformation, as far as I'm concerned. You're making a personal choice that I wouldn't make, but you're not running around recommending Invermectin or telling people that the vaccine doesn't work. 1. Apparently you did. 2. It's basic epistemology. We're entitled to our own opinions; we are not entitled to our own facts. I'm sure you know exactly what I mean. Here's what a MUCH larger forum is doing, since I suspect you didn't click the link I provided: This post relates to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic. /r/NFL has an established position that commenters who attempt to downplay the pandemic, undermine widespread agreement among the scientific and medical communities about the efficacy of vaccines in preventing death and the spread of COVID-19, or anything which can be interpreted as having the potential to delay someone from receiving the vaccine will be moderated. You can read more about this here. While posts by NFL personalities are allowed in certain circumstances, this doesn't mean carte blanche for commenters to spread politicial, scientific or medical mistruths within the comments of those posts. If you see a see a post or comment with this kind of misinformation, please report it to the moderators using the 'report' function underneath the post or comment, or message us. From /r/Coronavirus here is a FAQ about the COVID-19 vaccine: Vaccine FAQ.

I have. It didn't work. So my voice got bolder. Maybe a moderator could, you know, remove misinformation that will result in people dying or something like that. I hear it's a popular technique just about everywhere else on the Internet. EDIT: Example:

That's because there are two people distributing misinformation that will result in people dying. Why don't you focus on that and not my tone?

We're quite sure that we need to listen to what 95%+ of scientists and doctors are saying rather than what facebook, Tik Tok, and certain entertainment personalities are saying, and that 's all. You know those so-called "sovereign citizens" with their degrees from YouTube Law? The people recommending against vaccination are pretty much the same.

Repeating things like this here and on other message boards is going to kill someone.

I think the better analogue is someone who has stage 4 cancer but decides against treatment, maybe? But even then, cancer isn't contagious.

No. Just to death.

They're going to end up killing someone and nothing will be done about it.

Many of us watched him play in Chicago as well. It still would be stupid to trade him. Do you think Davis Webb can handle the team if Allen is hurt?

Until some starting QB gets injured, sure.

No.

I don't think he wants to be locked up. I think he wants to be a starter somewhere next year, and I also think he will be a starter somewhere next year.

This isn't hockey. We can't worry about whether he walks at the end of the season. (And the Bills didn't give up anything for him anyway.) He's part of the 2021 team and we can worry later about whether he is on the 2022 team.

That's the way I'm looking at it.

Truby back to Chicago for Mack. Only if the Pegulas meddle, of course.

Don't be mean to @Weave

Look at the Canaries' early schedule.

I desperately need some hockey or at least some hockey news. Not a team/arena situation, not rampant speculation about a holdout player, not a sexual assault investigation, but real, actual hockey news. THANK YOU.

I think you might be. There was a movie called Idiocracy in which people drank a sports drink called "Brawndo" because "it's got electrolytes" instead of water. They also attempted to irrigate crops with the same stuff, which didn't work and led to famine. The joke that Short Term Charisma is making is that we can't come up with natural vaccines so we will use ones made with Brawndo instead. The joke that Brawndo is making is a play on his username.

It was *very* tongue in cheek.