Eleven

Well now I can't go to sleep until after THIS period. This is how it starts. The first one's free, and then...

A little Rasmus-to-Rasmus action!

Dogs turn white and fluffy when you cook them?

Tortorella back in America's Wang with a 7-0 team? And Q coached last night, too.

I'm going to end up being awake for the first period of this damned thing whether I like it or not, so I might as well have it on.

Interesting ...

Something's messy. "Two former Chicago Blackhawks players" appears not to be accurate in two respects (Beach never played for Chicago and he is only one person), and I am questioning whether (1) TSN was inaccurate or (2) there's still something we don't know. TSN's reputation always has been pretty good, as far as I know. It has nothing to do with the bona fides of Beach as a victim, and I think some people are misunderstanding me that way.

It doesn't. It just goes back to the TSN story *and that's all*. First post, this thread. He could have been the mailroom sorter; it's the same crime and the same coverup.

And cloned him, apparently. Book you might enjoy (I am not suggesting this with snark; I think you'd enjoy it): https://www.amazon.com/Lifespan-Fact-John-DAgata/dp/0393340732 Well stated. This could have been the Sabres or the Celtics, or even Tebow's* Mets. The problem is way larger than the Chicago Blackhawks. *That was snarky.

Thank you, gentlemen.

I did see that and thank you @Brawndo. More interested in both goalies, I suppose.

I can't find lineups/goalies anywhere--not even on NHL.com.

I'm not the one keeping it going...and Taro has answered the question. So Tebow was a New York Met after all. And even if you count Beach, who is the second? Is there one?

With the exception of the word "still," this reminds me of a team I know. Wish I could watch this one.

I'm guilty of this as well; I'm wondering whose NHL strings Roger Goodell pulled yesterday.

Not that I want to continue this sidetrack forever, but was Tim Tebow a New York Met? Here's a recent Blackhawks media guide. The all-time roster is toward the end. https://cms.nhl.bamgrid.com/images/assets/binary/300304750/binary-file/file.pdf If TSN reported that there are two former Chicago Blackhawk players, then either there are two we don't know about or TSN is wrong.

TO clarify: This is not my point. At all. Please go back to the first post in this thread and the TSN article quoted therein: "two former Chicago Blackhawks players," and we don't have even one yet.

Yeah, that's another part of this that I don't understand and never did (my earlier comments in this thread). And is there a second player or no? Or are there two Blackhawks players who have not been named? (Sorry, @Porous Five Hole, I consider Beach to be a former Blackhawk the same way I consider countless former Amerks to be former Sabres, which is to say that I don't. Doesn't make him any less a victim.)

***** Don Fehr.

1. Thank you--that is good clarification--do you remember where you heard it? 2. He was an 11th overall pick in 2008. He was not the "bubble" player that some of us--self included--thought he might have been back when we didn't know his name. None of that shifts any blame to him, of course. This whole situation is just so *****.

Ok. Chicago recalled Beach on April 28, 2010: https://www.espn.com/nhl/team/transactions/_/name/chi/season/2010 For those wondering why this matters: 1. A lot of people are dragging Quenneville's name through the mud. He may not have known as much as people think. 2. I don't like inaccurate reporting, and referring to Beach as one of "two former Chicago Blackhawks players" sticks in my craw. He never was a Blackhawks player, and TSN would have done well do refer to him initially as a "player formerly in the Blackhawks system." And are there still two? The victim at UM doesn't count--his situation was separate.

Yes and he was considered an attitude problem and a bust. He was compared to Ryan Leaf. Now, it is VERY, VERY possible that those were false attributions to cover up the situation, or that those attributes were his reactions to what was happening to him. But it remains that he was not a Blackhawks player, not ever, and that, to me, calls into question an awful lot about that TSN article that started this thread. This is what I'm trying to look up right now. A couple of articles that I've already seen state that Bowman was not a Beach fan (Beach was Tallon's pick) and maybe he wasn't called up.

This is the original tweet that started it all. Kyle Beach is not a former Blackhawks player, much less two of them: · Jun 23 The alleged sexual assault of two former Chicago Blackhawks players was “an open secret” among staff both within and outside the team’s hockey department, a former team marketing official said in an interview with TSN. Here's the article with the same language: https://www.tsn.ca/alleged-assaults-of-chicago-blackhawks-players-an-open-secret-source-1.1659115