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Tage set up Krebs who boofed his shot. Wide open net.

WUST-assure. Easy-peasy. Correct, but the accent is on the 2nd syllable. hell-EN-ee-us.

And it's on ESPN+

Everytime I listen to WGR when Paul Hamilton is on, he mispronounces Helenius. And not just saying it wrong the same way. He says it wrong a different way every time. HELL-nus, hell-NEE-iss, etc. It's embarrassing a Sabres beat reporter can't learn a name after 2 years. And no one else at WGR corrects him.

Who said he's not getting paid?

There are worse things than playing pro hockey in Jacksonville, I suppose.

ECHL team. Rio Rancho Events Center, 7K cap. About 20 miles north of Albuquerque

Those were the free spending days of Ville Leino and Christian Ehrhoff. 😂 Touche.

But what changes is the Sabres become successful too? We operate under many assumptions. Terry is considered to be, or been, a meddlesome owner. But how much is Terry steering the ship right now? You have Adams, plus Jarmo, Lindy of course, and Staal, Ventura, Karmanos and Fortin as well. You're also seeing a shift away from a speedy offensive skill team to one that focuses more of defense and puck possession. Who's vision is being implemented now?

So if the Sabres finally do turn the corner, no credit will be given to anyone involved? What about the Bills? Are they just a happy accident? You know, anyone outside of our bubble would look at an owner with two champion caliber franchises and think they were pretty good.

Chicago's United Center has "bars" in what would be the 300's at KBC. They took out a couple rows in the corner sections. I could absolutely see a seating reduction in a renovated arena. 17K instead of 19K?

We are just going around the same block over and over. Let's see how the season plays out.

Arch Manning, of course. I still believe Justin Fields could be a decent QB. He needs the same development track Josh Allen had.

It's always a surprise when bad teams become good. Especially to national writers. They can't follow every team close enough to know what's going on.

That's because Jack is just one piece of the Vegas machine. He's not the center of their universe like he was in Buffalo. I believe things would have gone far differently if McDavid were a Sabre, but then having Tim Murray as your GM is still a handicap. It's true the Sabres are not considered a well run franchise. But one thing I've learned about the media, especially the national sports media, is it's lazy. Once an opinion forms, it sticks. No one bothers to update it, especially when everyone just repeats each other. So things could change but you'd never know because of the prevailing opinion. And much has changed with the Sabres this year alone. It's better to follow local beat writers. And even then, few are any good. Bill Hoppe is probably the best since the late Jim Kelley. Sneaky Joe DiBiasi is one of the worst.

No, unless new locker room leadership emerged first. Eichel, for all his skill, was a terrible leader and contributed to the mess this team became. The Sabres fate was sealed when they drafted him because he was "the guy" and the Sabres had to do everything to make Jack happy. If you want to play "what if?" imagine if we got McDavid.

Now that's a leap. Jack didn't understand anything other than he hated Buffalo. I'd argue Jack along with Evander was the source of the bad locker room vibes that derailed this franchise.

Well there you go. Case closed.

I'm not dying on my sword over this. If they send Mrtka back to juniors it's fine. I'm sure they are trying to decide now if the AHL would be a better place than juniors.

Do you have a story link or anything that says this or are you assuming? Eichel: uber-talented, but not a leader. Jack is succeeding in Vegas because they have locker room leaders.

Remember this....

Totally different situation from Tuch. Reinhardt got a short extension from Botterill. By the time Adams took over, nothing was keeping Sam here. Since Zach Bogosian, you'd have to go back to Golisano getting cheap on Drury and Briere. My point is there really isn't a history of the Sabres lowballing players and letting them get away. So acting like that is the likely outcome with Tuch is like you're rooting for that to happen. All negotiations start apart. That's why you negotiate. You have a half dozen other players in the league right now slow walking their deals because they want to cash in on the expected higher future caps.

Name the last Sabres player that walked over a failed extension when wanting to be here? I'll wait.

I was asking what that had to do with the topic at hand: the Tuch extension. Was the poster saying negotiating an extension with Tuch was somehow emblematic of the Sabres the past 14 years? That's why I'm confused. Are we supposed to extend him? Not extend him? Extended him 5 seasons ago?

Because we are negotiating with Tuch??? I'm not following you at all. Is this a thread about Tuch's extension or rehashing the drought? I thought this was a Tuch thread. My bad.