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Especially with Friedman, McKenzie, Dreger, et al sitting there with you. edit: I forgot Vogl. Can’t forget Vogl. He’s probably the heaviest weight on that end of the teeter totter

Like the old saying goes, if you’re not part of the solution…

Mustn’t worry

Per the bold, I wrote a post about the players that have received fusion surgery. All two of them; one a successful return, one forced to retire. If you could steer me to the research that says cervical ADR is becoming standard for the public and that ADR is best of Eichel, I’d be more than grateful as I’d really like to see that. I’ve only heard one doctor, Prusmack in Colorado, come out and advocate for it publicly. I’ve also heard that the preeminent spinal surgeon in the field, the one who has performed more ADR procedures than anyone, Dr. Cappuccino, advise against it. From all I’ve gathered, I just don’t think there is a medical consensus in favor of the ADR procedure for a 24 year old athlete. Perhaps the Sabres can be persuaded otherwise. I guess we’ll see.

When Terry signed Eichel to his deal, he GLADLY agreed to pay that money in the first place. He does not stand to “profit” from the current situation and he continues to pay Eichel’s salary. Again, the word “greed” is just not a word that applies.

If the Sabres wanted to test that, they could have already. They don’t appear to be out to punish him.

Fusion requires the extra time to allow the bone grafts to fully fuse together to form the single bone.

He’s currently getting paid, regardless.

The potential liability issues alone make the $50m look like chicken feed. In a previous time, the Pegulas were more than happy to see Eichel earn every penny of the $80m they signed him for and they’d have been more than happy to pay it. Every. Penny.

Seems that way. And it’s unfortunate.

Greed is the wrong word to use here, imo, as I’ve never heard it used to describe someone protecting their interests. The Pegulas aren’t look to gouge anyone here, nor are they looking to profit off the situation. Don’t see where greed applies at all here.

There’s a fine line between defending your position and discounting someone else’s. Both sides in this matter are justified.

I don’t see the greed on both sides. I think the Sabres would fully understand and accept it if Eichel decided to retire. Nobody could blame him in in the least.

Depends on how you look at it I guess. I see it as 50/50 Eichel plays at an All Star level again. Going by such limited examples is not advisable anyway. Every case, every patient, every prognosis is different.

When I looked into it, I could only come up with two: Kris Letang and Derek Dorsett. Both returned to play after six month rehabs. Letang continues to play at an all star level while Dorsett was forced to retire after recurring issues with his neck.

That’s not Granato’s style.

Well earned road point. They had nothing in the tank the last 30 minutes. I suspect this will be the norm in back to backs as high effort teams are gonna lose steam more readily imo.

Sabres with the top two rookie scorers in the AHL. Nice.

Right, so then teams reportedly interested really don’t have faith that Eichel will return to the player he was. If they really did, then they’d be willing to pay the price for a heathy Eichel. And by extension of that logic, neither do Brisson and Co., otherwise they’d do a better selling job of their player instead of saying the Sabres need to settle for less as has been reported. It just doesn’t add up to me.

And Peterka with another apple. Nice to see some early chemistry between two guys we hope to see in the show for a long time.

I think so, too. Which is why I see an inconsistency in their reasoning. If Eichel were already at 100% they’d pay the price. They are willing to go all in on the $50m risk currently because their assumption is he will be back at 100% and we’ve established that Eichel at 100% is worth the trade price in the first place.

If Eichel was at 100% good health, would they be willing to risk those pieces?

My view has always been a return to health and a demonstration of full recovery in order to maximize trade value. So yeah, I’m fine with waiting. Especially because there is no rush. Back to my question: if a team is willing to go all in on the risk, presumably because they believe in a full recovery and return to form (why else would they assume that risk?), then why wouldn’t they go all in to acquire him in the first place?

Can’t speak to the specific level of differences, but different insurance companies have different policies with different costs for different levels of coverage. It would be nice to find out the specifics. That said, if teams are willing to go all in on the risk, then they should be willing to go all in to acquire him. They either believe in a full recovery and return to being an elite player or they don’t.

Because the Sabres aren’t indemnified against Jack not playing if something goes wrong with a non-approved surgery perhaps?