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Good. From a practical point of view, does it mean anything?

The beauty of hockey and its ugliness.

It's May there's a pandemic there's a depression it's snowing we're debating whether it would be good if the Sabres won the Cup and murderous hornets are coming. Something ain't right here.

It's about honour.

Let's wait til it warms up. Snow! all across the twin tiers. Unbelievable.

No, my statement makes me a bigger fan. I don't want a charity playoff appearance because some bat got mad at some Chinese guy.

I'm all for the Sabres getting screwed out of a "playoff" spot.

Yes, but they're smart enough to have training camp now for when the regular season comes in November.

When you watch people who wanted an abominable NHL playoff system get mad at how abominable it is.

What we did in the U.S. was a common sense middle approach.

You wanted it. Soak in it.

But we're having this discussion in early May, not early March. We can see the societal good that sacrifice did. And in just this short span of time, we already have a proven treatment, Remdesivir, although it's hardly a game-changer, and there are vaccines well in the works, as @Zamboni keeps us apprised on.

Maybe. Or maybe it's an urban legend. "Bob had a massive coronary at home and still wouldn't call 911. Now he eats his soup through a straw while re-watching Super Bowl 27." Think about the deaths unrelated to Covid-19 that would have ensued had the health care system essentially ceased to exist.

I think you've encapsulated it pretty well, except for the plausible part and the selfishness part. It's not plausible to suggest that allowing millions of people to die relatively quickly is better than spreading the deaths way out — in fact, so way out that treatments and vaccines would arrive before you reached that death toll. I mean, it was like six weeks and some people started freaking out. Are we that spastic a society? The thing that irks me is we did all the hard work to flatten the curve, now we're spitting out the bit before the virus is on the mat, so to speak. As for selfishness, "I don't want to sacrifice anything in the name of societal good" is the very definition of it.

Re: the meat processing plants. Anyone ever make the mistake of farting while skating (not sharting, mind you)? Big mistake. It doesn't disperse. It's the mistake that keeps on giving. And punishing everyone around you. For a good long time. I think it's because the gas doesn't rise; cold air sinks. My pet theory is that this virus gets aerosolized, and in the (I would assume) cold, dry environment of these plants, it hangs around, for a good long time. I've never believed so many workers touched infected surfaces or breathed heavy droplets let out by sick co-workers, one rapidly infecting the next. I'll dedicate my Nobel Prize to Andrej Meszaros.

I'm not sure it was all that rational. He's been all over the place. And his tone was pretty off-key in a discussion where many people are just flat out afraid. Maybe he is too. I'm not mad at him, he's a good man. This whole situation has turned everyone inside out.

A woman who works in a local nursing home told her husband who told the husband of my co-worker who told my co-worker who told another co-worker of mine who told me that... antibody testing had been done on the entire staff at the home and there were many who tested positive. This is in a zip code with no positive tests so far out of 80 tests. Kind of interesting. Or, given the nature of the telephone game, what the woman really said was, "I am positive after seeing Ben in his tight-fiting scrubs that I am officially anti-body."

Would you please leave the personal details of your first date out of this thread? There are children.

Where'd they play, a Turkish prison?

I can't remember how the swine flu vaccine was handled. I seem to remember going to CVS to get it, and that there was some kind of system as to when certain people were able to go get it. Sold piecemeal to the private sector? That's no way to do it.

@sabremike from someone who has written some long paragraphs, would you mind breaking up your text a little?

This attitude, I think, will rule the future. For now, some very powerful people are doing everything they can to fight it. "Warriors." I think Woody would say — maybe even did say — he hasn't been on the front lines (has worked in hospitals with few to no cases). IMHO that is clearly contributing to his take on this pandemic. That model was based on doing nothing — the Woody plan. We don't hear about it anymore because we took another approach and it has generally worked. So the plan is a victim of its own success. People think of Covid 19 as either a turdburger or death. There are many people in the middle. Many people had to go to the hospital to get better. Where would all of those people have gone if the hospitals weren't accepting any more patients?

dark is bringing it. Thank you. More gumption than I have. Enough deference.

I'm not sure why the PA Health Department just announced that only symptomatic people will be tested. I assume it's because of a shortage of tests. I don't know if the NBA has anything to do with it. I have to read up on the quick point of care tests that we're really talking about here. "Get tested on the way into work" tests. That's a fantasy right now. IMHO unless they become abundant they need to be prioritized and pro sports would be near the bottom of the list.

Come on. Be a Warrior. Sacrifice yourself on the tangerine altar!