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The two president roles are very different. It's apples and oranges.

I could prove it. When you're a farm team with no interest in winning, it's not hard. Not much competition.

Where they've been for years according to the dweebs. Top of the heap!

He was fired up on the bench after Malcolm Subban's anthems (the performance was easily in the top 5 Sabres moments of the past 10 years). Joie de Sabre.

Of course it's reasonable to infer such a thing. It's also reasonable to infer that Drury's eventual comments about New Yawk meant he had no intention of staying. And for me the arrival of this book tips the scales more in the direction of Tom's version of events. He has the BN story stuck in his craw 15 years later. What does that suggest? He's mad they got the story right? Now I want a meatball sub for lunch.

Your beef is with Merriam and Webster. You clearly wanted to paint Tom as a greedy guy who just wanted to make a buck. Your hand got caught in the cookie jar, top shelf.

Did you not assert as fact that Tom demanded that the team operate in the black (turn a profit)? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/in the black#:~:text=Definition of in the black,is finally in the black. According to Tom he wasn't interested in turning a profit.

No. Told rather calmly to a pesky Harrington at the former owner's farewell presser. "My only directive to Darcy (or Larry and Darcy) was to break even."

Put the fruit in before the Jello sets. In the black? No, not according to Tom, anyway.

https://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/stories/2007/08/06/story3.html LQ: Well, I guess we didn't get the deal done, so ultimately we do bear responsibility for that. I think we collectively do; if people want to say I do, that's OK with me. But reality is that it's a two-way street. The player bears responsibility too. Our two captains didn't come back to Buffalo, and that's a choice they made. I'm not going to characterize it one way or another, but it's not just management deciding in that situation. The player decides, too. Hindsight is always so clear, but in the fall - in reference to Chris and Danny - we were $90,000 away from the cap. It seems foolish now. A lot of people thought the cap wasn't going up. It went up to $50 million. What is that? That's $180 million that came into the system that was not there. And there were never "hometown discounts" offered. That whole notion is a foolish notion. Players, for the most part, understandably will sign for what they believe the market is. Did the market move up since the fall? Yeah, it moved up a lot. But the market in the fall was $5 million - a lot - for a player ... That was the market then. It wasn't a discount. In June, does that number in the fall look like a discount? Yeah. But it wasn't when it was offered. BF: At the outset of this interview, you said there was a major piece of misinformation about Drury? LQ: The front-page News story that Chris Drury had agreed (to terms) with us and we never sent a contract. That just simply didn't happen. BF: The agreement didn't happen? LQ: No. Chris made an offer to us, which we didn't accept, and he knows we didn't accept it. But the notion that we came to terms and didn't bother to send him a contract and therefore he became upset with us is just complete fiction. I thought it was very misleading to our fans. The problem with those kind of things, normally you don't care, is they become part of the written Internet record. I guarantee you that for years now, people will do searches and they'll write a story about how Chris Drury left Buffalo because a secretary signed his contract and never sent it to him, which is complete, utter fiction.

Tom's version makes more sense. What facts do we have? Has anyone else gone on record about what happened? Drury didn't sign early in the season. He was already having a good season and the team was white hot. By the playoff round with NYR, Chris was openly talking about being a Rangers fan growing up and the specialness of playing at MSG. That's enough for me Besides, Tom has grown on me as an owner the way Nixon grew on a lot of people after he left office. He's old. Just leave him be. I don't mess with Terry anymore. I sure as hell am not wasting any mental energy on Golisano. Also when did someone creep up on Drury while he was buying organic lettuce at Wegman's? There's your answer.

Why? I don't get it. Then again I don't get most of your reactions. He wrote it in a book. Why have a desire to shoot down his version? In the end, who cares? It's July 2022.

Tom's account is more plausible than, as Swamp points out, a contract sitting on the owner's desk as he snores, the feather going up and coming back down on his nose time and again. Or however the old cartoon went. Yeah Chris and his agent were really antsy to get that deal done.

Two more and you break Potter's record.

I wish I had your profound understanding of the truth. Maybe someday when I'm older. I merely see no reason for Golisano to lie about it. If OSP 2022 has any vivid memory of a controversy surrounding the co captains, I'd be surprised. He's done too many things in his life, including Monica ***** Seles.

Why are you asking me why the insult? I think in the big picture OSP left the events of July 2007 behind in August of 2007. I highly doubt it was top of mind then and certainly not at the time he wrote the book. The day of infamy lives on only in the minds of a few superfans. Hardly anyone cares. I don't see why he wouldn't be telling the truth. To protect himself from scorn? Everyone knows who drove the franchise into a ditch... on purpose.

FTR my quote was sarcastic. Tom's a straight shooter. When he bought the team he said he didn't know a puck from a meatball. 15 years after the Drury affair he has no motive to lie. Unlike some fans he was probably over the whole thing within weeks. No need to cover things up years later. The owner vs. the stick boy's gf's uncle? I weigh the owner's word more.

Lol. Taro knows more than the owner. Of course Tom is lying. He has to be. Otherwise Taro is full of it, and that's not possible.

...and at this point there's no tangible evidence he's also not awful. At some point the bell will toll for him too. Whether it's a joyful arrival in port or an urgent call to evacuate steerage remains to be seen. Damn. I'm good. Seriously, this franchise has done nothing yet with Adams at the helm.

How is this even possible?

Whose Ryan Johnson?

Kevyn tried! But he has problems at shortstop. Dakota has forgotten his inhaler twice.

Is this related to several players being linked to it?

Only André Burakovsky works as a goalie name. If Ville Husso is the future, I quit.