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Reposting (with a couple of typos corrected) the (too) long post from the GDT per @dudacek's suggestion. Until this season Mittelstadt has been handled roughly as well as Thompson was prior to Granato moving him to C, from the poor usage right up to the accompanying injury bad luck. He also started this year as the 2C, almost always w/ Olofsson, and quite often Asplund; so this 2C/3C tweener was getting hard usage w/ other linemates also being asked to punch above their weight class. He watched Granato's system implemented last year but didn't get to actually participate for long stretches & then when he could his skating was affected by his injury. This season he pretty much avoided moving the puck to the middle of the ice (likely from years of Taylor & Krueger hammering into his head that moving the puck into a phonebooth in the center of the ice was a very poor decision) unless he was almost at the opponent's goal line and other teams saw that & took an easy path up the boards away from him resulting in a frustratingly large # of turnovers. But he was typically positionally sound in his own end, tended to stay high in the opponent's zone avoiding odd man rushes not the direct result of him getting forced into a turnover & he was pretty good at getting the puck from an opponent in a 1 on 1 battle but then typically would lose the puck back before he could move it to a teammate. He was clearly thinking rather than doing. It wasn't until the Joisey game that he was bumped down to 3rd line usage. He was still mainly playing C then until Jost was finally added to his line. He was still keeping the puck to the boards & seemed to be playing slower than he is. But, that's been changing since that 3 point game he had. He has started actually moving the puck towards the middle of the ice and his passing has improved. He also is playing quicker. Last night, except for the play that turned into the 1st Caps goal where he & Samuelsson were not on the same page & he then got interfered w/ trying to back check & the 1st 6 or so minutes of the 3rd where he was playing slower again (IMHO he wasn't dogging it, he was trying to figure out how yo adjust to the Caps surge; YMMV & likely will 😉) he was having a very solid game & arguably his best. He even set Olofsson up for a couple of nice opportunities - that hadn't been happening in ages. Getting to play W along w/ the easier usage that comes w/ playing on the 3rd line rather than the 2nd or checking line has IMHO helped him simplify and get what Granato wants him & the rest doing. He has been better in the last 6 or so games, finally; and though his line only finally scored again last night they've actually been generating chances. Something else that wasn't happening in ages. Personally don't believe Granato is giving him opportunities to boost his trade value, though that might be the LT result. Believe Granato's rationale is twofold. 1. He continually talks about Mitts skill level & believes he can once again be the underperforming player whisperer & get him to bring it in games which would significantly help the team if that line could start scoring even every other game at ES. He's been a pretty good judge of talent so far & personally will give Don the benefit of the doubt as he's brought more out of several players than it seemed they had. And 2. Granato WANTS to be able to use the Cozens line as the 3rd line. Not to shelter Cozens, he clearly doesn't need to be sheltered, but to get the other 2 kids back to favorable matchups. Which would get them thriving again. They were going great w/ 3rd line usage & even bumped up a little when 1st getting 2nd line usage. But that line, while still generating chances, isn't generating nearly as many (some of the advanced stats people could say just how much their chances & more critically their high danger chances are down, but would eyeball them at about 60% of what they'd been getting) and they aren't scoring at ES as a line. Getting them back to 3rd line usage will get them back to looking like the 2nd coming of the RAV line. And, while they will get back to finishing playing through the 2nd line usage, it'll be more dramatic an increase getting back to the easier usage. And to get the Kid Line back to 3rd line matchups means either the Jost line or Krebs line needs to take that 2nd line usage. And the Jost line can't do that w/out Mitts playing better than he did at ES throughout the 1st 2+ months. Personally, expect Mitts to continue to gel w/ Jost and continue to look more like a driver than a passenger throughout this month. And hopefully well enough that the Kid Line can go back to getting really favorable matchups. Wouldn't put money on it, but do believe (hope?) it is likely. Expect that Mitts improvement will help Olofsson too. But VO's issue is he isn't a play driver & never will be. But if Jost & Mitts can make stuff happen, maybe he can get some confidence as well.

Kind of agree. His draft pedigree is frustrating people that expect more than a 3W out of a top 10 pick. But, as long as Granato believes he can be more than that, will expect Don is correct. Can't think of a single player Granato expressed a sincere belief in that has busted. (Small sample size, but still, he believed in Thompson, Skinner, & Krebs. He put Cozens up against McDavid. He has an effective line w/ Cozens the elder statesman. He knows what these guys can be. If he says Mitts can be really good. Not going to argue.) And, if Granato is wrong and all he is, is a good 3W, he'll still help this team this year & next and then will get pushed out by a kid at some point.

Danke. 🍻 Well, considering 2 of those 4 will be All Stars (& quite possibly season ending, not just early February), 1 is a 1st liner, & the other is just 21 (22?) and already a solid 2nd liner w/1st line potential; no he likely isn't as good as any other them. But he is a legit 3rd liner who could very well be a 2nd liner. And, if he is a 2nd liner, this team really is set a F moving forward and they have legit assets that can be used to fill gaps at D or G OR to extend the window that is clearly opening.

Really believe finally getting a chance to play W on the 3rd line will allow us to see what Mittelstadt can be. Essentially missing all of last year (between outright being out & not being able to skate when he was in) & then being forced into 2C usage when he wasn't ready for it, especially w/ Olofsson & Asplund as his primary linnemates, kept him in that small set of players that haven't noticeably improved under Granato.

Until this season Mittelstadt has been handled roughly as well as Thompson was prior to Granato moving him to C from the poor usage right up to the accompanying the accompanying injury bad luck until this year. He also started this year as the 2C, almost always w/ Olofsson, and quite often Asplund; so this 2C/3C tweener was getting hard usage w/ other linemates also being asked to punch above their weight class. He watched Granato's system implemented last year but didn't get to actually participate for long stretches & then when he could his skating was affected by his injury. This season he pretty much avoided moving the puck to the middle of the ice (likely from years of Taylor & Krueger hammering into his head that moving the puck into a phonebpoth in the center of the ice was a very poor decision) unless he was almost at the opponent's goal line and other teams saw that & took an easy path up the boards away from him resulting in a frustratingly large # of turnovers. But he was typically positionally sound in his own end, tended to stay high in the opponent's zone avoiding odd man rushes not the direct result of him getting forced into a turnover & he was pretty good at getting the puck from an opponent in a 1 on 1 battle but then typically would lose the puck back before he could move it to a teammate. He was clearly thinking rather than doing. It wasn't until the Joisey game that he was bumped down to 3rd line usage. He was still mainly playing C then until Jost was finally added to his line. He was still keeping the puck to the boards & seemed to be playing slower than he is. But, that's been changing since that 3 ppint game he had. He has started actually moving the puck towards the middle of the ice and his passing has improved. He also is playing quicker. Last night, except for the play that turned into the 1st Caps goal where he & Samuelsson were not on the same page & he then got interfered w/ trying to back check & the 1st 6 or so minutes of the 3rd where he was playing slower again (IMHO he wasn't dogging it, he was trying to figure out how yo adjust to the Caps surge; YMMV & likely will 😉) he was having a very solid game & arguably his best. He even set Olofsson up for a couple of nice opportunities - that hadn't been happening in ages. Getting to play W along w/ the easier usage that comes w/ playing on the 3rd line rather than the 2nd or checking line has IMHO helped him simplify and get what Granato wants him & the rest doing. He has been better in the last 6 or so games, finally; and though his line only finally scored again last night they've actually been generating chances. Something else that wasn't happening in ages. Personally don't believe Granato is giving him opportunities to boost his trade value, though that might be the LT result. Believe Granato's rationale is twofold. 1. He continually talks about Mitts skill level & believes he can once again be the underperformed player whisperer & get him to bring it in games which would significantly help the team if that line could start scoring even every other game at ES. He's been a pretty good judge of talent so far & will personally give Don the benefit of the doubt as he's brought more out of several players than it seemed they had. And 2. Granato WANTS to be able to use the Cozens line as the 3rd line. Not to shelter Cozens, he clearly doesn't need to be sheltered, but to get the other 2 kids back to favorable matchups. Which would get them thriving again. They were going great w/ 3rd line usage & even bumped up a little when 1st getting 2nd line usage. But that line, while still generating chances, isn't generating nearly as many (some of the advanced stats people could say just how much their chances & more critically their high danger chances are down, but would eyeball them at about 60% of what they'd been getting) and they aren't scoring at ES as a line. Getting them back to 3rd line usage will get them back to looking like the 2nd coming of the RAV line. And, while they will get back to finishing playing through the 2nd line usage, it'll be more dramatic an increase getting back to the easier usage. And to get the Kid Line back to 3rd line matchups means either the Jost or Krebs line needs to take that 2nd line usage. And the Jost line can't do that w/out Mitts playing better than he did at ES throughout the 1st 2+ months. Personally, expect Mitts to continue to gel w/ Jost and continue to look more like a driver than a passenger throughout this month. And hopefully well enough that the Kid Line can go back to getting really favorable matchups. Wouldn't put money on it, but do believe (hope?) it is likely. Expect that Mitts improvement will help Olofsson too. But VO's issue is he isn't a play driver & never will be. But if Jost & Mitts can make stuff happen, maybe he can get some confidence as well.

Mogilny had 50 in his 1st 50 games that year, but it wasn't recognized by the league as a 50 in 50 because he'd missed IIRC 2 games at that point. He nearly kept that pace the full year netting 76 in 77 games played.

Lafleur was feared to never live up to his lofty draft status through 3 seasons as well and was viewed as a potential bust. And that back from the era when the entry draft selected 20 year olds. Followed that up w/ 6 consecutive 50+ goal seasons. And his 21 goal 3rd season was the only 1 he didn't pot at least 27 in a full year until his 1st retirement. Reggie Leach went from 20 goal scorer to 40 & 60 w/ a change of scenery. Briere had only 1 good year in Phoenix & was back in the dumper before Buffalo grabbed him. There's a few others like St. Louis in that late bloomer category. Don't know that what Thompson is doing is completely unprecedented, but it is truly rare.

FINE, as long as the OTHER 2 losses happen after next week. 😀 (Where's that friggin' d'oh emoji when you really need it.)

And whoever (if anybody) picked Lyubushkin with a 3 game points streak, please remember to fill the little sterile cup with the lid & label on your way to collect your prize. (Great call, but there's no way you were sober making THAT call.)

As long as all 3 losses come after next week. 😉 (REALLY want them to get to 48 in 40 now that it's this close & still possible.)

There are 4 winnable home games coming up. They are on a VERY condensed schedule, so winning them all is a ridiculously huge ask. But IF tonight was the 1st game of a 5 game winning streak they will be on an NHL 0.600 pace (AKA, a near guaranteed playoff pace) through 40 games. Not Friday, but pretty friggin' fantastic. Get your rest these next 3 days boys and work on the MF'n PP. It's obvious that is still rusty from the long layoff. Wouldn't be surprised if they haven't had a chance to work on it at all since the break. 48 through 40 would be sweet. And totally unexpected. 96 through 80, sure, but after 0-8-0 48 through 50 was pretty much unthinkable.

3-2 in OT. 1-0 in SO.

Not yet. Sure it'll show up this week or next.

30 goals already. That 60 goal dream isn't dead yet. Watch out Connor, you've got a big arse killer giraffe on your tail.

Winner winner chicken dinner.

That should be another 2.

Unfortunately. Was hoping they'd score much quicker.

Well, will be 4v3 for nearly 2 minutes if necessary.

It was loose. Now the trip. Cool.

Should've been a trip there.

Exactly 2 minutes left w / the man up.

PP coming up.

Dahlin.

Oops. Jost!!!