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I was friends with a lot of people involved in urban planning regionally and they said then that when the city brokered the deal for that land with Pegula that they would never get that money back. Then last year this was published. https://www.investigativepost.org/2022/09/12/harborcenter-fails-to-meet-its-jobs-goal/ Nearly $60M in tax credits and only hit employment goals once. And unlike you or I who will get hit with higher taxes for our homes overtime, Pegula will likely claim that the Harborcenter is depreciating YoY to avoid paying more taxes on it. Which is what just about all developers do.

He won't ever sell the Sabres. When he dies the family might, but he is 73 and he much rather have a hockey team than the 500M he would pocket selling the team and paying the taxes on the huge profit. I also saw the Bills released the TP "I'm a football guy, not just a hockey guy" video yesterday. If you are defending whether you or not you are just a hockey guy, that means you are a hockey guy. Clearly that is where his passion lies.

Not having a good way for me to watch them.

How much of an infrastructure overhaul would they need for that? How much is actually planned right now? It’s been a long time since I’ve been out there, but the roads there, particularly Abbott, can only handle so much. Granted, I’m talking about this as someone who went to the stadium from the Boston/Hamburg area, not exactly the main feeder into the stadium.

I think the Canalside rumor comes from that fact he did build the Harbor Center, now LECOM Harbor Center, which is a really nice asset for Downtown Buffalo. It brings in youth, high school, junior A, and college hockey. Includes training facilities, rinks, restaurants, and hotels. Lots of visitors really like it and, along with the other parts of downtown that are revitalized, it adds a positive to the city that was not there before. LECOM Harborcenter is an American mixed-use development in Buffalo, New York, developed by Pegula Sports and Entertainment. The building occupies a full 1.7 acre city block formerly known as the Webster Block, directly across from and connected to the KeyBank Center and Canalside.

pretty solid argument the only reason sabres and bills are still in buffalo is TP. That said, he would sell sabres tomorrow, tonight even for that valuation.

With that diva act, he’s done it with two teams at this point, right? If the shoe fits…

I am genuinely curious what you will complain about when the Sabres make the playoff this year.

I am genuinely curious how you will contort the sample games you quote as this season moves along. I think the phrase is “very fine people “, innit, stoner?

The Pegulas are great. People look at net worth and think they just have billions lying around. They don't. If they did they wouldn't be exploring the sale of a minority interest in the Bills. They likely are selling 25% of the Bills to help finance the new stadium. People whine about the state and county funding, but that funding barely covers what is going to be the overruns. The 1.4B cost is going to be north of 2B. Terry Pegula is 73. Kim in younger but her health is not very good, and unfortunately never will be again. The Bills are locked in Buffalo for another 30 years thanks to the Pegulas. As long as the Bills are in Buffalo, it is highly unlikely the Sabres ever leave too. They might sell a minority interest in the Sabres one day, but that team will be here for a long time.

He's hot tho.

Thanks, Idemo. I hope you don't mind that I lent you a hand. We should probably also thank Terry for his near-lifelong commitment to improving the winter weather in Buffalo.

I’m guessing age. I know we don’t want to hear this old trope, but the Sabres are still a young team.

Need another 3 game win streak I guess

I say Lord take me downtown….

You have to look at who he is replacing. That would be Ryan Johnson or Jacob Bryson. I am going to think at the end of the day that is an upgrade. Highly mobile defensemen are coveted in todays NHL and there is no mercy on the teams that don't have them. It's 10 games with a new coach and a new system with a skilled developing defenseman. The Ruff system is get the puck out of the D zone as fast as you can vs the Granato system which was to box in gain control and work your way out. I am not sure why he is paired with Power but that may change. I would like to see the three puck movers spread out.

Lord, I don't asks for much!

You forgot. They saved the waterfront. Terry paid for Canalside, remember?

Yes, let's find a way out of the two people that saved Buffalo sports. They have won 4 AFC East Titles after a 17 year drought. They also have the hockey team headed in the right direction. We win Friday and we are 4-1 in our last 5 games. They are great owners.

Get well soon!

Not so bad. #31 (Winnipeg) is the best team in hockey right now.

I don't like the ranking of 30 out of 32.

In athletics, especially contact sports, thinking too much and lacking confidence will look like a lack of effort. I very much disagree that Quinn's game prior to this season hinted at a problem with playing a soft game. It's the coaches' responsibility -- but mostly Quinn's job -- to get this sorted out.