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Too many things involved to not think Trump is a disgusting human being. "He likes them on the younger side" https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/a-timeline-of-donald-trumps-creepiness-while-he-owned-miss-universe-191860/ I love that Trump has a big mouth b.c it makes this so much easier.

Probably not. I do t think the Trump administration fully regains support after this. Social media such as Bongino’s FB page look split in the comments.

Indeed. I'm not saying to hide it. I'm just saying that's how our world works. There is a cabal of power brokers who steer much of the world events. No chance in hell we'll ever see that list.

If Trump is on the alleged list then so be it. The public and the kids deserve to have this entirely exposed. There’s a conspiracy theory that doing so would cripple civilization or something. In my opinion that’s a narcissistic and unrealistic view of what exposure would do. The fact Russiagate and 2020 election are still being brought up but Epstein is getting buried is insane. The supposed victim of those two conspiracies is a grown man, the Epstein conspiracy victimized children.

Can’t forget that Trump also said that Ukraine started the war! Trump is as dumb as a phuckin’ stump. And I apologize if I just insulted stumps.

It’s obvious that the meat processing billionaires got to somebody in the administration because a day after an ICE raid on one of those facilities, they abruptly stopped. That industry employs a huge number of immigrants.

If only those immigrants worked for Republican farms and factories they would still be working and not in the concentration camp.

Yay. ICE caught another bad guy. But they continue their disgraceful abuse as there are 250+ immigrants HELD IN CAGES in “Alligator Alcatraz” WITH NO CRIMINAL CHARGES OR CONVICTIONS. Held in cages for MISDEMEANORS. But because this administration has no problem lying about any of this, I’m sure they will invent some bull$hit charges. WTF happened to our country that ANYONE would be OK with this? Now I long ago rejected the religious dogma I was indoctrinated into as a child, but these self-professed Christian politicians need to read their good book again as God clearly states that individuals and nations will be judged on how they treat “the least of these, and that includes the stranger and the poor. Our nation should be ashamed.

Welcome to Trumps America 🤣 You are no different if you allowed it to happen, knew it was happening, even joked about it (it was recorded so cannot try to deny that).

You are misconstruing the knowledge of a list of names with the actuality of the list itself and what actions those people on the list were involved with. What we know is that Epstein was involved in all kinds of illegal activities, including trafficking of minors, etc. What we know is that Trump had involvement with Epstein, so did Bill Gates, so did Bill Clinton, and so on. What we know is that someone has claimed that Trump was really big on power moves and screwing other people's wives along with many other indecent and deplorable ways to treat women. What we DO NOT KNOW is that Trump engaged in pedophilia. What we are reasonably positive of is that there is a list of names and potentially other information. Without that evidence making such claims is irresponsible. You can BELIEVE what you want, but I've never read anywhere of the insinuation that Trump was involved in pedophilia and I'm not going to allow that statement to be made as though it's fact. I am sure that list has a lot of really influential people on it. That's the kind of list that will never be published. It's an indictment on the kind of society we have in the United States (albeit the power matrices go well beyond the US borders). Underneath all of this is the fact that we are dealing with a group of individuals who routinely say anything that comes to mind and then forgets they ever said it. Do I put any credence into what Pam Bondi says? Hell no. Just like I don't listen to most of what anyone in this administration says because it's 99.8% hot air. The US has the reality show it always wanted, in the White House. Not a surprise from a country whose citizens pay more attention to the Kardashians and "Real" Housewives of anywhere than they do their local, state, and national politics.

Everything is falling apart for Trump organization 🤣 Trump stops supporting Ukraine in the war, Calls Zelensky a dictator, takes away many of the sanctions on Russia to allow them to grow in strength. Now all the sudden everything is changing. I love this disaster of an organization, they give us the best entertainment in what not to do.

Why didn't the Biden administration release the JFK files? Was there no JFK files also? Then what did Trump release?

B.c there are powerful democrats on that list as well. Funny watching people go from "They aren't releasing any information b.c they are the ones on the list" Now "There never was a list, that's why they didn't release it." Social media and the sheer incompetence of the Trump administration for saying all of this is why they are in this mess. Let's not forget if they did release the list and it had Trumps name on it people would have said "fake news" 🤣

@Demoted Why do YOU believe the Harris campaign did not expose trump during the election?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/10-reasons-doj-fbi-face-backlash-over-epstein-files-flop This is what happens when you let influencers run your country. They say anything to get themselves votes but don't realize the problems they cause.

That is not true since all sorts of people are on that list. To think otherwise is willful ignorance and makes you look foolish. I am glad you took Trumps bait and are now repeating his exact words he wants you to believe. He ran on that lie, he hired influencers as his top officials that also repeated that exact lie. He made lies up about people he didn't like talking about them being on said list. Pam Bondi herself said she had the list on her desk. "In a December 2023 interview, prior to his appointment as FBI Director, Patel stated that the FBI Director has "direct control" of Epstein's address book. Patel suggested that if Donald Trump were to be re-elected as President, he should make releasing the "black book" a priority on his first day in office." See unlike you Hank I only go by what the PEOPLE in charge say themselves. I don't care about second hand talking points. If they say something and they are running this country they better well back that ***** up. So maybe stop passively aggressively insulting people b.c you don't like that they remember what your heroes said.

@LTS Thanks for sharing your personal experience, it helps provide some perspective and will give me something to consider when I see similar articles in the future.

Any evidence that may have existed when Trump took office was there through the Biden administration. If there was anything linking Trump to any malfeasance regarding Epstein it would have been used against him during the election. To think otherwise is willful ignorance and makes you look foolish.

People don't realize criminals like Trump shape the future for themselves and for no one else. Remember Bernie Madoff? He was very heavily involved with shaping the regulations in the finance world. Giving Trump all this power is just insane and with everything that has gone on people choose to ignore it. It's why people like Elon are trying to create AI to be able to control how people get answers. It's why the tech sector mostly sided with Trump even though he used to attack them. They all want a piece of the pie and can see how easily social media has made that for them. Why do you think red states don't value education as much as blue states, keep you fat and dumb and you will vote how they want. Here we are sitting on a line of 2 extremes b.c there is no middle anymore. Get everyone over the age of 60 out of office. This old power needs to go.

Pam Bondi said she had the list right on her desk. Now all the sudden there was never any list. Missing part of the prison footage. Stop with this pretending. Asking me to give you evidence that the people in power are actively suppressing, the same person who made it one of the things they ran on president for. Now it's "not important" to talk about anymore. Trump asking people why they keep bringing it up when he talked about it at every rally he went to before hand...

I'm confused over "If the Trump administration doesn't need evidence..." Evidence regarding what? We are discussing your accusation both against Trump and by your statement against a forum member for voting for a pedophile, which would fit into your "supporting a pedophile" which is just as bad (to quote you). But, you clearly admit there is no evidence. As such, either edit your statement or I am going to remove it. We're not going to tolerate that insinuation here. Here, we are going to require evidence.

Trump destroyed the evidence. If the Trump administration doesn't need evidence then neither do the citizens. There is no "fine line" he is a straight Pedophile or someone who supports Pedophiles which is just as bad. This is what the people voted for so this is what they will get. A country where evidence is just whatever you want to believe.

In that case every police officer, prosecutor, judge, etc., should wear masks while doing their jobs as they are all subject to potential retaliation from those they administer justice to. People in the justice system have always been potential targets for retaliation, but knowing who is arresting us is a right in this country and law enforcement is obligated to provide that information. When ICE is involved in extra-judicial activities, especially those targeting US citizen, and they hide their identities to conduct them, then it is operating like a para-military force and that is anathema to the rule of law and our way of life. And just to reiterate my initial post, we can all agree that ICE doing the job they were created to do, ARRESTING CRIMINALS in this country illegally, then we should be grateful and applaud those efforts. But none of us should condone these extra-judicial activities and imo, when there is no criticism of those activities, it is tantamount to being in favor of them.