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As I think project 2025 is awful and would set the country backward, and that tariffs would destroy this country, and that I don’t hate gays and women and ethnicities, hope they do nothing.

Thank you for correcting me on that. A quick Google search would have told me that the house and senate were red in 18, my bad.

This certainly doesn't match reality at all. Not only did Republicans control both the House and Senate, but they nearly universally worked with Trump. One exception I can think of, thanks to Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, and John McCain voting no, was not allowing Trump to dismantle the Affordable Care Act without something to replace it. Democrats regained the House during the midterms, but Republicans maintained control of the Senate throughout Trump's term.

Your information is out of date. Trump has 76.8 million votes, 49.9% of the total. That percentage has continued to trend downward, so it is unlikely he crests 50% again.

When Trump was elected the first time, I believe there were many people In the house and in congress, on both sides of the isle but I believe maybe more blue because they held the majority at the time, that hated the man so much they refused to work with him even if toward a common goal that would have benefitted the country. I also feel that Republicans refused to work with Obama, although for much different reasons. Now that congress and the house are red I'm curious if there will be more of a willingness to work with Trump. Do you also believe that Trump was such an ass that some people couldn't/wouldn't look past their own hatred of the man to work with him and do you also wonder if congress and the house turning red will mean anything different(better, hopefully) this time around? Or, am I seeing things that weren't there?

I've been here for quite some time and well aware of how many people on this board communicate. I would say there is a stretch going from seeing Trump fail than the country succeed to suggesting someone wants to have the country burn is a stretch too far. Just work to clarify or don't engage. Let's keep it at a better level. As I said above, I am aware of how he communicates. Each individual chooses how they respond to that however. if one cannot control how they respond, that's on them. Personal attacks, especially one's that suggest someone wants to watch the USA burn, are not going to be allowed here.

LGR invites this with the way he communicates.

Good, lord. Mine too. Their job is not to inform. It’s to get you to watch tomorrow.

This is incorrect.

I don't watch Fox news, or CNN, or any news for that matter. I'm sure I miss alot of good, and bad, but I believe my life is less stressful since a cut out the news.

My opinion of LGR is based on reading a decade plus of LGRs posts. If you have a different opinion than me, I respect that. I'll never tell you you're wrong for not seeing things the way I do. Can I hold a conversation at a much higher level? Yes, of course, and I am, with others. LGR is combative and condescending. I truly believe, based on his own posts, that he'd rather see Trump fail than the country succeed. If me drawing attention to it is a source of discomfort to him, maybe he should give his posts a second read before hitting the submit button. Case in point - Gonna be fun when things one after the other implode.

It is one of the most powerful bills in a long time. Gina Raimondo (former governor of Rhode Island) is a badass. As secretary of commerce, she basically brokered it. It does way more than dumbass’ tariffs will ever do to strengthen our country. It’s why Trump or Fox never mention it even though it was completely bipartisan and supported on both sides of the aisle.

I had not heard of this and had to Google it, thank you for bringing it to my attention. It seems like a great thing. My only concern is the little bit I've read on line talks about what we are going to do, not what we have already done. I hope Trump, along with a red congress and house, don't ***** it up. My uneducated opinion is America producing our own semiconductors seems like a big deal.

I agree with this. @Hank - you can hold a conversation at a much higher level than this. Let's not wade into personal attacks of this nature.

To answer the original question, my hope is that they show their usual ineptitude and lack of actual operational organization and do nothing. No new laws. And we get to the next election before they vandalize the Constitution and the country. Truly, that is my hope. It’s a fools hope, but, well, there it is.

Thankfully, Biden signed the CHIPS and Sciences act into law and we’ll be ready. I love how no republicans ever bring this up because they know what a powerful, actual piece of legislation it is.

Accusing me of wanting to see the US burn instead of Trump being a good president is the most egregious, heinous, vile and otherwise disgusting sack of ***** insult anyone has ever leveled at me.

So how much of the Ukraine is Trump going to gift Putin? How long after till China goes after Taiwan and the South Pacific?

He’s not supposed to. Trump is very vocal in his desire to have a say in interest rates though. @Hank. Interest rates are determined by the the federal reserve. They are an appointed, bipartisan board that uses interest rates to control economic growth. Inflation went high because every country in the world printed and gave out billions of dollars during the covid shutdown to avoid an economic meltdown. Every country in the world knew it would result in inflation but deemd it more important to send out all that money to avoid a collapse. The federal reserve raised rates in the aftermath of this to slow down the resulting inflation. The US actually saw lower inflation than the rest of the industrialized economies. And now that inflation is getting back under control, rates are coming back down. The last thing we need is some yahoo who thinks he knows better than trained, experienced economists mucking it up.

And the president has absolutely no control of mortgage rates whatsoever, anyway.

Why do you care about mortgage rates if you bought a house? It has nothing to do with your escrow, I mean, unless you have an adjustable rate mortgage? You don’t, do you?

I think we needed a change because Biden showed on national TV that his competency could be questioned, by both parties. Did that change have to be Trump? No, I don't think so, I didn't vote for him. More than half the voters did though so hear we are. I still can't believe Harris lost. I think Obama was a phenomenal president. My previous comment is not so much an indictment against Biden, but acknowledgement of how good I think Obama was, and both men who came after paled in comparison. I'm not knowledgeable enough about the economy, and what effects it, to know if Biden did a good or bad job. I think my comments were specific to mortgage rates. They have more than doubled since I purchased my home, I hope they come back down some. That seems like a reasonable thing to hope happens, regardless of who's responsible or gets credit. Unless you're LGR of course, who'd rather see the country burn than anything good to happen over the next four years and Trump be given credit.

Can I ask why you think that? What is so bad that people needed a change? Anyone who thinks the economy isn't good is either not paying any attention to the world, only believes what Trump tells them, or needs it to be true to justify their vote,… or just dumb. (FTR, I've been in TV my entire 30 year career. I've been hearing this Bullshizz the entire time. It was only true once, at the end of W's time in office.) I'm an old white guy (I just got my Ancestry DNA results back. It turns out I'm whiter than even I thought). I'll be fine. How any Puerto Rican could have voted for him is beyond me. After he withheld the hurricane relief money and didn't even know that they were American Citizens, and what was said at his Klan rally, good lord. How any ex-serviceman could have voted for him after the complete disdain and disrespect he has shown them is beyond me. I'm at the George Carlin stage of not giving AF towards anyone who made this happen. A-*****-Men!!!!!

I’ve wanted to wade into this discussion and give some examples of good things I’d love for him to accomplish, but honestly I just don’t have any faith that the platform Trump has run on will benefit me positively. And certainly won’t benefit my children, and that weighs heavily on me. Tariffs, mass deportations leaving us even shorter on workers than we already are, putting thousands of government workers on the unemployment line, gutting overtime pay rules, pressuring bold moves around economic policy. These all sound like recessionary paths to me. Couple that with policy that will continue the global warming slippery slope, and put even more policy in the hands of corporate robber barons and my children don’t seem to have a shot at the life I had. No room for optimism here. He’s gonna have to show me something I just don’t believe he cares about. I am going to be one miserable mother ***** if this guys plan hurts the economic growth we’ve seen the last 4 years and I have to postpone my retirement.